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Originally Posted by dave289
hey pinch your right about one thing that there are plenty of idiot cyclists and drivers as well.they both shiiiittee me no end .you talk about cycling hysteria created. It is fact created by these tools on bikes.the thing I cant understand is these dopes are the ones who will be killed when there is a collision but they want to take up the whole road in groups with no regard for the traffic. and cut acrooss in front of you without even lookin.these braindeads should be barred from the road. they obstruct traffic which is against the law so get rid of them.  : while were at it get rid of all the tools driving cars and I'll be a happy man.I could go on for ever about this but I could'nt be bothered. |
You are right in that there are plenty of cyclists, who by the nature of their transport, should have more emphasis on self preservation. Their lack thereof then defaults to use car drivers to maintain their existence. True and irrefutable.
But personally I don't see huge amount of this (although I see some). Probably because those that partake in it live limited existences. I do know that it is much more common to be simply held up by a cyclist, rather than taking serious avoidance action to avoid an actual collision. This is what there is a resounding chorus crying out about, and this is what I have an issue with.
Your point about the 'obstructing traffic' being the law is interesting though. Cyclists ARE defined traffic. Their mere being cannot in of itself be illegal, it is just not good jurisprudence. There are plenty of examples of slower moving traffic too, yet the same argument does not appear to be applied to them. The obstruction law I understand applies where the obstruction is wilful and deliberate, and not in keeping with the usual way in which the transport is conducted - ie using your car to deliberately block a road etc. The only time I have heard it used is charging motorists failing to keep left where required. Even this though is a statutory misconstruction as there is a particular offence of Failing to Keep Left which can be applied in that particular instance.