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Old 01-03-2014, 06:55 PM   #1
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Question Clive Palmer...Australia should build a ToyForDen !!!

MAVERICK Queensland MP and businessman Clive Palmer believes Holden, Ford and Toyota should all build cars at the same location in South Australia to try and cut costs and make the industry more competitive.

Mr Palmer was in Adelaide on Saturday to launch the state election campaign for the Palmer United Party and said it was “a national disgrace’’ that the car industry was being allowed to die.

He advocated more government funding to try and save the industry.

“It might be bringing the three auto companies together and making South Australia the hub of vehicle production, not for 90,000 vehicles but for 222,000,’’ the member for the federal seat of Fairfax said.

He said demand for Australian cars could be increased by mandating all state and federal governments buy local cars which would be made in “one super factory here in South Australia’’.

In other policy announcements, Mr Palmer said more needed to be done to make farming more economically viable and advocated more should be done to increase the value of minerals mined in the state.
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Old 01-03-2014, 07:10 PM   #2
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Somehow I don't see Mr. Palmer rushing forth with his own billions to do it...

Nor would Ford, GM and Toyota want the complication of three plants in one, there's a lot
of logistics and confidentiality regarding intellectual property preventing it ever happening
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Somehow I don't see Mr. Palmer rushing forth with his own billions to do it...
You bet he wont. Clive is in it for Clive. Just look at the party executives... All Clive Palmer business executives.

WA members had no say in the Senate representatives and Chamonix Terblanche who was their original No2 on the ticket was removed and only given 3rd spot once she jumped on the plane and confronted Clive and she had the most backing from the party members.

The number one spot on the ticket in WA is Dio Wang and his day job ......... executive at Mineralology, a Clive Palmer company.

AMEP did a deal with the devil when they signed the Memorandum of Understanding with Palmer and I hope it doesn't end up biting AMEP on the butt.
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AMEP did a deal with the devil when they signed the Memorandum of Understanding with Palmer and I hope it doesn't end up biting AMEP on the butt.
Is that because AMEP had so much credibility before that memorandum?
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Is that because AMEP had so much credibility before that memorandum?
How many of their members put their hand up to run for them at the Federal Election? Lots joined but only a handfull were willing to put their hand up.

Ricky Muir was one of them and got in. Could of been someone else but they didn't stick their hand up.

Easy to complain, harder to be the one doing things.
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Old 01-03-2014, 09:16 PM   #6
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It never ceases to amaze me how stupid people in "power" can be. Why would they work together in some super factory? it's exactly the same as asking coke and pepsi to join together. The only thing I can possible agree with is the state and federal government buying locally made cars. Infact I would have to go further to say that any government or government funded organisation are to buy locally made cars. It honestly annoys me a little to see the local council car park full of Subaru outbacks and not one locally made car.
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I think the SA or VIC people should bid on the right to buy either Ford or Holden factories and build the 'Homer' federally funding for the winners, the design is already there and Im sure it appeals to the average joe.
Imagine a council carpark of 'Homers'
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Clives off his chops
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He's had to many chops, pork chops
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It never ceases to amaze me how stupid people in "power" can be.
Because they're put there by even stupider people. QLDers shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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Because they're put there by even stupider people. QLDers shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Well thanks for that .. Not all QLDers voted for him. Even in his seat of Fairfax he only got in with preferences after a recount.

So what State do you live in? Tassie? NSW? Vic? Some pretty ordinary pollies down there too mate.
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Because they're put there by even stupider people. QLDers shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Please enlighten us on where you are from ??
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Please enlighten us on where you are from ??
Sure we have our idiots down south, it's just up north they grow more readily and in greater abundance.
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Sure we have our idiots down south, it's just up north they grow more readily and in greater abundance.
So what are you saying ,do you mean the millions of southerners that have moved up here breed more readily up here ,seems to me that there is very few born and bread Queenslanders left here ,so i guess you are saying we have been taken over by a lot of stupid people that came from south of the border ,yep i reckon you are right ,well the south east corner anyway ,its a bit too hot and humid up here for the poor little souls
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No benefit unless they share a platform. Developing said platform for our market? Pffft, forget it, no chance of a meaningful return.
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Clive is a character but his heart is in the right place. What people dont understand is that the car industry, globally, is one of the biggest businesses by far. If you look up our trade stats the 3rd biggest area of imports is cars!

If we dont make cars anymore then we should tax them more. We dont need to send Aussie dollars overseas. Id slowly phase in a 20-25% GST on cars.

Unemployment is rising :^( The GFC is catching up with us I fear.
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If we dont make cars anymore then we should tax them more. We dont need to send Aussie dollars overseas. Id slowly phase in a 20-25% GST on cars.
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I'll just leave that there for people to read and let the enormity of that concept sink in.

How would that idea help anything? Apart of course from make the government richer, and cars for the public way more expensive. Why would we impose a higher GST on something we don't make anymore? "We don't need to send Aussie dollars overseas"...?? What? If you don't have a choice where the car you are buying is made...ie: all from overseas...then how exactly would that help? People will still need new cars, so why punish them because they're all foreign made?

In fact, protectionist tariffs and taxes should be dropped completely on all cars after local manufacture stops, as we don't need to "protect" something that won't be happening any more.
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I'll just leave that there for people to read and let the enormity of that concept sink in.

How would that idea help anything? Apart of course from make the government richer, and cars for the public way more expensive. Why would we impose a higher GST on something we don't make anymore? "We don't need to send Aussie dollars overseas"...?? What? If you don't have a choice where the car you are buying is made...ie: all from overseas...then how exactly would that help? People will still need new cars, so why punish them because they're all foreign made?

In fact, protectionist tariffs and taxes should be dropped completely on all cars after local manufacture stops, as we don't need to "protect" something that won't be happening any more.
Mate, I will repeat. One of our biggest imports by value is cars. Unemployment is rising, we should discourage Aussie dollars heading overseas. The Fed govt also has a budget deficit. I have no issue in NOT lining the pockets of foreign auto makers. While my tune may ring of xenophobia, Im trying to keep you and me in a job. Anything that encourages people to, say, holiday within Australia would be good for the economy.

If the Chinese economy sneezes we are in for a world of hurt. I have no issue with the government saving money for a rainy day.

Would you prefer we make cars GST free?! Mate, cmon, think about it some more.
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I stopped reading at Clive Palmer as any more would have been a risk of brain damage
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can we possibly have a comment from the thread starter csv8?

all he did was post yet another quote from the Courier Mail
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can we possibly have a comment from the thread starter csv8?

all he did was post yet another quote from the Courier Mail
I posted, so we all could have a laugh!!! Clive means well, but......
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And their most popular model will be called the Cliveodore-Middle aged, greying and really mostly obsolete.
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Will they be bringing back the cliveland v8?
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Clive is doing exactly what Clive always does, he gets people talking about HIS simple solutions to everything, he knows full well that it doesn't, wouldn't, will never work.
But at least you are are talking about Clive.
So he gets what the wants.
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You're off your head if you think cars are about to become cheaper
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Maybe Jac Nasser from BHP Billiton could approach Ford and........ no, that wouldn't work either.
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Maybe Jac Nasser from BHP Billiton could approach Ford and........ no, that wouldn't work either.
Do you mean because he did allow the AU to see the light of day...if not actually "play with the clay" if some stories are to be believed, lol.
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Maybe : In one factory : Toyota build Corolla..Holden build Cruze and Ford build Falcon.
That way, we get a small, medium and large car.???? !!!!!
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Ohh Clive you lovable scamp you.

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Maybe : In one factory : Toyota build Corolla..Holden build Cruze and Ford build Falcon.
That way, we get a small, medium and large car.???? !!!!!
How about Toyota: Corolla, Holden: Falcadore, and Ford: Territory.
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