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24-02-2012, 10:37 AM | #31 | ||
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A few truckies speeding!! Lower the speed limiters to 90. That will fix all the problems!
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24-02-2012, 10:41 AM | #32 | |||
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At least at 100 they should flow with the traffic. At 90 they cause an issue (bit like the Caravan fraternity).
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24-02-2012, 10:41 AM | #33 | ||
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It's no surprise Lennons finally got caught again.
Just sad people had to die before they got more than a slap on the wrist.
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24-02-2012, 10:47 AM | #34 | ||||
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How would you know no one else is around? Plenty of cars which have been pulled over on the sides of the road broken down (fixing a flat tyre etc) have been hit by cars and trucks over the years. Some moron driver maybe driving around at night with no lights on..... (seen that plenty of times too)... What about a farm house near a highway in a 100kmh zone? Worst excuse i have ever heard of... In an article yesterday, two of the trucks from this company were found abandonned as their drivers had done the bolt.... Quote:
Having said that a work mate of mine also works as a delivery driver from Townsville to Mackay in a HR truck which is 100kmh limited. A few weeks ago he was pulled over by Police as their radar had showed him doing 126kmh.... he told them it was impossible for him as the truck was governed and also GPS tracked and recorded by the company. Police took his word (as they knew him anyways!) and he called his bosses and got them to get a printout of his truck and its speed.
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24-02-2012, 10:59 AM | #36 | ||
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Trucks along the Bruce and Pacific Motorways regularly do more than 100km/h. I sit on a GPS measured 110km/h and the numbers of trucks that go past you makes it seems like you're standing still.
Don't tell otherwise that all truckies are good and abide by the rules at all times. What a crock of ****.
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When I was living in Europe a couple of years ago I noticed the trucks were limited to 90 (even though the roads were up to 130) and had to stay in the kerb (our left) lane and religiously did so without resorting to those double and triple lane overtaking circuses we see here. Obviously the Europeans don't consider that trucks will hold up the traffic if they are speed limited and they have some pretty fast traffic. They also have a peak hour curfew in the city and you see lines of semis queued at the outskirts during peak. Here they're let loose to increase the congestion, while in yet another of those wonderful political double standards rail freight trains are not allowed to run through Sydney in peak hour! Quote:
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24-02-2012, 11:15 AM | #38 | ||
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Problem with speed limiting them is that you are saying at that speed "100" they are safe! nope, thats not right!
Drop them to 90, that makes them safe? No that doesnt help either. Where do they normally crash? on corners where they should do less than 90ish, or straights where they fall asleep, and not usually on safeish roads like the hume. Speed limits are a joke. Make no sense apart from in busy areas. In all my driving, I can use my eyes and see where there are other cars, houses, towns, people etc etc, and slow down to appropriate speeds here. Lots of you people must never have driven on real country roads where you are luck to see one car an hour! Just out of interest, a number of times I have driven for over 700km at night, and counted cars. Often less than 10! And where have i driven from and to? Outskirts of Geelong to Tailem Bend SA (missing highways)!!! Try that between 11pm and 5 in the morning! Who am I going to hurt at high speed apart from myself? |
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24-02-2012, 11:20 AM | #39 | |||
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They are speed limited to 100, they have to be to be ADR complaint. Changing the speed limiter or making it null is illegal in all states, and there are hefty fines attached for doing so. The only way to change the speed limiter in modern trucks is to adjust it in the computer or change the gearing in the truck, which makes the truck think its doing 100 when in reality its doing 120.
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24-02-2012, 11:28 AM | #40 | ||
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No i havent driven trucks with limiters, I know its illegal to change limits etc. What i am saying is "so what".
Who are you going to hurt if there is not a soul on the road but yourself on a desert highway. Drivers should use their eyes and brains. |
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24-02-2012, 11:30 AM | #41 | ||
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At least a 100km limit stops them drag racing each other, taking up both lanes, makes them easier to pass in a car without having to exceed the limit, and less likely to crawl up your rear if you are doing the limit. It made the highways alot safer compared to what it was like before the blanket limit.
going to sleep is a difficult issue as it is for any long distance road traveller, apparently the new trucks have blink rate detectors that sound alarms and call up the base supervisor if it looks like you might be asleep... not that stuff like that will help with an outfit like Lennons.
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24-02-2012, 11:36 AM | #42 | |||
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I agree, as mainly a car user, it is great having trucks not racing each other like they used to trying to pass each other all the time in passing lanes etc! Mainly keeps them to themselves. |
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24-02-2012, 11:36 AM | #43 | ||
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I've often come home from work (oncall) at 4am'ish .. and driven past highway patrol cars sitting in the dark on the side of the Alternate Calder just waiting for drivers who think they are alone on a road ... makes me smile
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90 tonnes doing 120 kms an hour is dangerous... Trucks are built to do a maximum of 100 kms an hour, manufacturers build them with this in mind.
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24-02-2012, 01:06 PM | #46 | ||
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I drove south along the Hume yesterday and I can confirm that the only things sitting in Marulan RMS were two Lennons trucks.
Funny thing about speeding trucks though is that I was towing a car trailer south yesterday and I was on the cruise control at 100kph and got overtaken by quite a few trucks; both B-doubles and singles. Mind you they don't like being overtaken by a Ford Wagon towing a car trailer. I had one B-double suddenly lurch a foot and a half into my lane when I came up beside him on a hill and I had to take evasive action to avoid him. Luckily the wagon and trailer are a great towing combo and I had no trouble keeping it under control. |
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24-02-2012, 02:15 PM | #47 | |||
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24-02-2012, 02:27 PM | #48 | |||
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I wasn't holding anyone up. The trucks that came past me weren't doing 100kph - it's was more like 110-115kph. As for the guy I passed, he actually wasn't one of the one's who passed me, he just seemed to swerve into my lane suddenly. Once I passed him on the hill I left him behind and never saw him again. Obviously some are using their speed limiters, but it's just as obvious that many aren't. Generally I don't like overtaking trucks when I'm towing but I shouldn't have to hit the brakes and turn the cruise control off every five minutes just to stay behind them either. |
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24-02-2012, 02:48 PM | #51 | |||
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Maybe your right, but it still shouldn't give a truck driver the right to speed, it takes a truck a long time to gain control and slow down rapidly, compared to a car.
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24-02-2012, 02:54 PM | #52 | ||
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Yes I am a truckie I own 4 trucks also so I am copping it from both sides I get abusive phone calls from motorists that have done what I have just wrote and I have to listen to the drivers that are out on the road trying to get home to see their family. I also drive all day every day so I know what the drivers are saying is true.
Some people driving cars dont understand the person driving the trucks are at work not out on a leisurly drive. They are trying to put food on the table. As for limiters on trucks 2 of my trucks have them and they wont go over 100 km/h the other 2 are too old to have them fitted and they wont go over 110 down a big hill with a strong tailwind. |
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24-02-2012, 02:55 PM | #53 | ||
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24-02-2012, 04:01 PM | #54 | ||
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I wouldnt say all Truck companies go aganist the rule but Ive seen trucks flying past me and Im doing 110km so they are easily doing 120km plus and they werent Lennons trucks
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24-02-2012, 04:28 PM | #56 | ||
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strikes me that they're looking for an easy scapegoat. the reality is, short of trucks being fitted with GPS tracking that's monitored independently, you're never going to be able to successfully combat fatigue-related crashes.
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24-02-2012, 05:13 PM | #57 | ||
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Very interesting thread.
For those that aren't in the industry. Please don't under estimate what issues running only 30 minutes late to a major transport depot causes. Let alone an hour. Or 3 hours. You are looking at mulit billion dollar businesses having their freight, and in the end your goods, towed around the country with linehaul transport. For those that have NEVER been in the industry you have no clue as to the pressure these blokes are under. I personally have seen and spoken to a couple of 2 up crew's who can leave Clayton, Victoria on Friday evening and arrive in PERTH very early on Sunday morning for a timeslot bookin. http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en&tab=wl Hopefully the link works. Nearly 3500kms in a day and a half. These guys do what are called hot stops. Call ahead, staff at the fuel station fuel the truck while the boys take a toilet break, take food with them and keep going. This is towing a fully loaded 90T rated B-Double. Not a 1600kg Falcon. Jack
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24-02-2012, 05:16 PM | #58 | ||
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There was also a story floating around a few years ago of a guy who could do Melbourne to Perth in 26 hours in a single.
Ended up stacking the truck. It was a Detroit Diesel V12 turbo. Apparently producing over 700hp and we are talking more than a few years ago now. That is 11 hours quicker than you can do it non stop in a car. Story goes the truck was capable of over 200kph, with a load on. Jack
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Try and do Melbourne to Sydney or vice versa in 10.5 hours in a fully loaded B-Double. That is what the major transport companies have as their KPI's. Jack
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