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26-07-2011, 12:51 PM | #1 | |||
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26-07-2011, 12:56 PM | #2 | ||
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That is awesome for Ford! Use this as proof for buyers looking at 2nd hand cars.
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26-07-2011, 01:10 PM | #3 | ||
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If only they made a wagon, would make a good family car for the mrs.
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26-07-2011, 02:33 PM | #4 | |||
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I'm glad I'm driving the safe car on the road!! Well done Ford.. |
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26-07-2011, 05:13 PM | #5 | ||
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I'm sure Drive will twist it around by saying it would be safer if the side airbags were standard, and buyers should buy a VE instead cause they are standard.
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26-07-2011, 05:18 PM | #6 | ||
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Just saw this on the news.
#1 Ford Falcon (Large Cars). Love it!
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26-07-2011, 05:29 PM | #7 | |||
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26-07-2011, 05:31 PM | #8 | |||
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It's an incredibly good result considering all the different cars out there on the roads. It's very reassuring, knowing that my wife and kids are in an FG XR6 which is the safest car out there. Well done Ford Australia!
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26-07-2011, 07:15 PM | #9 | ||
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Well the FG Falcon did get 34.61 points out of 37 in tha ancap testing, the VE only 33.45 points. And that was the Dec 2008 test for the VE, which failed to get the 5 stars in the earlier ancap testing. Holden had to play 'catchup' and introduce seat belt reminders etc. get its five stars after the FG got its five stars, even then it isnt as safe in a collision as the Falcon.
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26-07-2011, 08:02 PM | #10 | ||
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More great stuff about the FG.
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26-07-2011, 08:05 PM | #11 | ||
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Makes me feel proud to drive a ford
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26-07-2011, 08:06 PM | #12 | ||
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Well done FoA
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26-07-2011, 08:44 PM | #13 | ||
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Well done Ford, now get the message out there.......
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26-07-2011, 09:50 PM | #14 | ||
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"Mass always wins"...ie: in a collision between a small 5 star car and a 3 or 4 star large car, the small car will come off a lot worse.
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26-07-2011, 10:14 PM | #15 | |||
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26-07-2011, 11:07 PM | #16 | |||
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27-07-2011, 05:56 PM | #17 | ||
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Once again, Ford marketing people miss an open goal in promoting their product.
There is absolutely nothing on the Ford site about this. Are they really that dumb? Is this why they are selling less 1800 Falcons a month? |
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27-07-2011, 06:21 PM | #18 | ||
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Funny enough I saw it on one of the morning shows this morning. Advertising was done...and free.
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27-07-2011, 06:21 PM | #19 | |||
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27-07-2011, 06:23 PM | #20 | |||
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The Fleet 1999 AU XR8 4sp adaptive shift, Black, Momo T-bar and S/wheel, Bodykit, 17" wheels, Sunroof - 180Ks - THE DAILY 1995 EF XR8 Manual Heritage Green, Factory Bodykit and FTRs - 126Ks 1986 XF Fairmont Ghia 4.1L EFI Regency Red, trip computer, venetians - 163Ks 1979 P6 LTD 351, Goldust - 185Ks 1989 Mazda MX5, Red 1.6L, 5sp manual - 102Ks |
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27-07-2011, 06:37 PM | #21 | ||
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http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-new...727-1i01s.html
Lack of standard curtain airbags can’t stop Ford’s Falcon from topping safety guide. Ford's Falcon has been chosen by motoring organisations as a top used-car safety recommendation ahead of the Holden Commodore despite a lack of curtain airbags on most models. The locally built large cars were awarded five and four stars respectively in the latest annual used-car safety ratings published by state motoring clubs and road authorities such as the NRMA, VicRoads and RACV. The current-model Falcon scores a ''safe pick'' despite the fact Ford does not fit curtain airbags to protect rear-seat passengers as standard except in the flagship G6E model. Advertisement: Story continues below Yet the Howsafeisyourcar.com.au that publishes the used car safety ratings advocates the fitment of side airbags, citing research that suggests they can reduce deaths in a side impact by up to 40 per cent. "Without them, in a side impact crash there is little to protect your head from striking the side of the car or rigid objects like trees or poles," the website claims. MUARC senior researcher Dr Stuart Newstead admits the Falcon's lack of curtain airbags on all models is a concern, despite receiving a five-star rating from the ANCAP crash test regime. "You'd rather have the curtain airbags fitted to protect rear-seat passengers, but these used-car safety ratings pretty much driver centric ratings, so you have to put a question mark on that decision if you take rear-seat passengers," he says of a car sold as a full-sized family car. The Falcon was joined by the Toyota Camry and a 25-year-old Saab, which includes no airbags or modern safety features, in a group of 20 used cars to receive top marks in the latest version of the controversial guide. The ratings – claimed to "help younger drivers make safer choices when buying their car" – also recommend turbocharged cars such as the Saab 900 that are banned for use by P-platers. At four stars, the Holden VE Commodore (2006-09) is rated as "good" due to the standard fitment of curtain airbags from September 2008 among other reasons, Newstead says. "The majority of VEs in this rating will be from 2006 and 2007. When the [entry-model] Omega was released in 2006 through to the MY09 update in September 2008, it only had driver and frontal passenger airbags and no side airbags at all." At the other end of the scale, popular small cars such as Hyundai's Getz (2002-09) and Accent models (2000-06) as well as Toyota's Echo (1999-05) are deemed "very poor" by the 2011 Used Car Safety Ratings guide. The guide, developed by the Monash University Accident Research Centre (MUARC), Transport Accident Commission (TAC), VicRoads and the RACV, measures the performance of second-hand vehicles in real crashes. Data is collected from more than 5.4 million vehicles in police-reported road crashes and more than one million injured road users in New Zealand and Australia between 1987 and 2009. It uses a five-star system to rate vehicles on their protection of occupants and other road users in the event of a crash, and for the first time this year awards a ''safe pick'' status to a handful of the best-performing cars in each category. These include the Honda Civic (2006-09), Volkswagen Golf (1999-09), Mazda6 (2002-07), Honda CR-V (2002-06) and Subaru Forester (2002-08). Of the 184 vehicles listed and ranked between one and five stars, 38 were rated "excellent" and 40 rated "good" while 41 models rated "marginal", 18 as "poor" and 47 "very poor". Meanwhile, popular light cars including the Mazda2 (2002-07), Honda Jazz (2002-08), Suzuki Swift and Toyota Yaris (both from 2005-09) were rated "marginal" with three stars. "There are significant differences in the level of risk of death or serious injury between the best- and worst-rating vehicles," Newstead says. "Drivers of the poorest-rating cars on the list ... are eight times more likely to suffer death or serious injury in a crash compared to if they were driving the best-rated car, a 2008-2009 Ford Falcon FG. "This could potentially be a life-saving resource for motorists looking to purchase a used car." TAC senior road safety and marketing manager John Thompson said if each motorist upgraded their vehicle to the safest in its class, road trauma would drop by about one-third. "All drivers should check out the used cars list to help ensure they are purchasing the safest possible car to protect themselves and others on the road – one choice could save your life," he said. Victorian Minister for Youth Affairs Ryan Smith said the guide would help younger drivers make safer choices when buying their car. "I hope young people and their parents do the homework, research the types of cars that receive the top 'safe pick' rating in the guide and choose a car that meets a high standard of safety," he says. The 2011 Used Car Safety Ratings guide is available for download on howsafeisyourcar.com.au. The used-car safety rating "safe picks" Small cars Honda Civic (2006-09) Peugeot 307 (2001-09) Volvo S40/V40 (1997-04) Volkswagen Golf/Bora (1999-09) Volkswagen Golf/Jetta (2004-09) Medium cars Mazda6 (2002-07) Honda Accord (2003-07) Saab 900/9-3 (1994-02) Saab 9000 (1986-97) Large cars Ford FG Falcon (2008-09) Toyota Camry (2006-09) BMW 5-Series (1996-03) Compact SUVs Honda CR-V (2002-06) Subaru Forester (2002-08) Medium SUVs Mitsubishi Pajero (2000-06) Large SUVs Jeep Grand Cherokee (1999-05) Commercial vehicles Ford Transit van (2001-07) Mitsubishi Triton ute (2006-09) Ford Ranger (2006-09) Mazda BT-50 (2006-09) |
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27-07-2011, 07:16 PM | #26 | |||
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Why do they need it on there website anyway, when it is all over other websites? Maybe they might try a radio or TV add, but this takes time.. Maybe there A&P budget does not allow for this?? Last edited by Joe5619; 27-07-2011 at 07:21 PM. |
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27-07-2011, 07:17 PM | #27 | |||
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27-07-2011, 07:19 PM | #28 | ||
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Compare the Courier Mail and Drive* articles, and it's easy to see where Drive's allegiances lie.
*Drive is a subsidiary of GM Holden LTD
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27-07-2011, 08:43 PM | #29 | |||
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Pretty much did exactly as I said they would. They could have just said it might be a good idea for a potential buyer to shop around and find one with the curtain airbags fitted. Being optional for $300, surely it can't be that hard to find one with curtain airbags? |
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27-07-2011, 09:22 PM | #30 | ||||
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My take on the whole article was that it is trying to push all makes to have curtain airbags. It just seemed the Ford didn't need them to score top marks. Isn't that a good thing? You guys need to settle a bit. Too emotional over the most insignificant things.
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