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800kg payload 5T towing 1m wading depth 650km range 360mm ground clearance The specs sound good to me. It's a pity the front styling is not to everyone's taste. https://www.caradvice.com.au/706885/...-ute-unveiled/ RIVIAN R1T ELECTRIC UTE REVEALED FOR LA Derek Fung CONTRIBUTOR Deliveries of electric pickup truck scheduled to begin late in 2020. The Rivian R1T electric ute has been unveiled ahead of its in-the-flesh debut at the 2018 Los Angeles motor show later this week. Measuring 5475mm long, 2015mm wide and a riding on a 3075mm wheelbase, the R1T has been sized to compete with the Ford F-150, Chevrolet Silverado and Ram 1500. Three battery packs will offered with the R1T, with the 105kWh model promising a range of over 370km, the 135kWh version good for over 480km, and the top-shelf 180kWh model good for around 650km. Each variant has an electric motor for each wheel. The entry-level 105kWh model has a total of 300kW/560Nm to its name, while the other two versions can boast up to 562kW/1120Nm. Depending on the model, the 0-60mph standard can be dispatched in between 3.0 and 4.9 seconds. Top speed is said to be 201km/h. According to the company, the R1T has payload rating of 800kg, can tow up to 5000kg, and ford water up to a metre deep. In off-road mode, the R1T has a ground clearance of 360mm, an approach angle of 34 degrees, a departure angle of 30 degrees, and a breakover angle of 26 degrees. Riding on a skateboard chassis, the R1T seats up to five people, and has a number of storage areas in addition to the rear cargo tray. These include the 330L front trunk, a 350L "gear tunnel" behind the cabin, and a 200L sealed bin below the tray floor. The cargo bed includes a tonneau cover, and three 110V electrical outlets. In addition to supporting fast charging, the R1T will also be available with camera, LIDAR, radar, high-precision GPS, and high-definition maps for Level 3 self-driving capability. Rivian's stand at the Los Angeles show will not only feature the R1T pickup, but also the related R1S SUV, which is scheduled to be unveiled tomorrow. The R1T and R1S will be produced at Mitsubishi's old factory in Normal, Illinois. Deliveries of the R1T truck are pencilled in for late 2020, with the R1S set to follow in early 2021. Like Tesla, the Rivian will begin R1T production with the more expensive 135kWh and 180kWh models. The entry-level model is priced from US$69,000 ($95,000) before the US$7500 ($10,300) federal tax credit. Orders can be placed now for a refundable US$1000 ($1380) deposit. |
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27-11-2018, 12:44 PM | #2 | ||
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That's a lot of boxes for one vehicle to tick!!!
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27-11-2018, 12:47 PM | #3 | ||
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The styling is awful. One box sitting on a bigger box.
If they can seemingly do everything else right, why can't they get the styling right too? |
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27-11-2018, 01:54 PM | #4 | ||
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Whats the range when towing the full 5t ?
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27-11-2018, 01:58 PM | #5 | ||
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Double the cost of an F150 Raptor.
Anyone know if the electric motors would be under any strain when towing 5 tonne. Or are they completely reliable and don't wear? |
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I don't know about that. Around $56000US for a Raptor aren't they? These start at $69000US ($61500US after rebates). An F150 Limited is $67000. So while expensive, it's not totally ludicrous depending on specs. Mind you there is no mention of price for the 180kWh version.
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I'd be more concerned about taking something with that much electricity on board into water.
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27-11-2018, 05:34 PM | #9 | ||
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Electric motors last a very long time, and the electric vehicle would probably cost around 10c/ km to run compared to probably close to 30c/ km for the F150. So difference in fuel cost of about $50-75,000 over the life of the vehicle
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28-11-2018, 07:26 AM | #10 | ||
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Now I’m all for powerful vehicles, and I’m someone who is vocal about the Ranger Raptors undersized engine. But I have a curiosity here, in designing a Ute to do 0-100 in 3 seconds were they better off having it do, say, 0-100 in 5 seconds which is still lightening for a Ute, but maybe having twice the range?
I don’t totally understand electric powered vehicles, so maybe that’s not how it works, and if driven sensibly the range would be the same on a 3 second or 5 second Ute, possibly. |
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Good idea .. but beaten to death with the ugly stick .. and I think an AMC Gremin isn't a bad looking car! I'm always suspicious of computer rendered images though. They tend to be not much more truthful than the old stylised drawings American's used in the 60s/70s showing long, low cars which weren't that in reality. |
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I did make the mistake of going off the Aus price for the R1T though. My bad. Didn't realise I wasn't comparing US $ with US $. |
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1120Nm would have a few boats sliding off the trailer at the lights
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And now the details of the wagon version have been released...
https://www.caradvice.com.au/707207/...-r1s-unveiled/ RIVIAN R1S ELECTRIC SUV UNVEILED Derek Fung CONTRIBUTOR Electric SUV revealed ahead of LA debut, will arrive in American driveways from late-2020. The Rivian R1S has been unveiled ahead of its in-the-flesh debut tomorrow at the 2018 Los Angeles motor show. Measuring 5040mm long, 2015mm wide, 1820mm tall, and riding on 3075mm wheelbase, the R1S is about the same size as the Chevrolet Tahoe, the Suburban's short wheelbase sibling, and significantly shorter from head to toe than the R1T ute, which it shares its skateboard chassis with. Like the R1T, the R1S will be offered with three battery pack options. The base 105kWh model has a claimed range of over 385km, the 135kWh version is good for around 500km, and the top-shelf 180kWh model capable of about 660km. Model for model, the SUV has about 15 kilometres more range than the equivalent ute. All models have an electric motor for each wheel, and a top speed of 201km/h. Performance is unchanged, with the 300kW/560Nm base model capable of a 0-60mph time of 4.9s, and the higher capacity variants topping out at 562kW/1120Nm and a claimed 0-60mph time of 3.0s. Compared to the R1T, the R1S has a significantly lower towing capacity of 3500kg, down from 5000kg. The low- and mid-spec R1S has seating for seven over three rows, while the top-tier variant maxes out at five people. The R1S will also be available with camera, LIDAR, radar, high-precision GPS, and high-definition maps for Level 3 self-driving capability. Other features include over-the-air software updates, eight airbags, a 15.6-inch infotainment touchscreen, 12.3-inch instrumentation screen, and a 6.8-inch touchscreen for the second row. Rivian says the R1S can ford water up to a metre deep. In off-road mode, the R1S has an approach angle of 34 degrees, a departure angle of 30 degrees, and a breakover angle of 29 degrees. Both Rivian models will be produced at Mitsubishi's old factory in Normal, Illinois. Deliveries are scheduled to commence in late 2020. Orders can be placed now via a refundable US$1000 ($1380) deposit. The entry-level 105kWh model is priced from US$72,500 ($99,800) before the US$7500 ($10,300) federal tax credit. Only the more expensive 135kWh and 180kWh models will be produced initially. |
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29-11-2018, 05:02 PM | #16 | ||
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What’s the catch? All the figures, including the price seem pretty impressive.
I guess the catch is the way it looks |
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29-11-2018, 05:33 PM | #17 | ||
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The catch is the no-name brand and everything is unproven.
I actually don't mind the looks of either other than the front. |
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29-11-2018, 09:17 PM | #18 | ||
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Front and side views look ugly, but the rear is not too bad, and that’s the angle most other drivers will be watching it from.
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Amazon want a piece of the electric car action - they've tipped in $700m USD with RHD vehicles to come..
article below courtesy of Go Auto, 19 Feb 2019 By SPENCER LEECH AMERICAN electric vehicle manufacturer Rivian has received a $US700 million ($A980 million) investment from e-commerce giant Amazon, following last year’s reveal of the all-electric R1T ute and R1S large SUV at the Los Angeles motor show. The off-road-ready EVs will be produced in Normal, Illinois, with deliveries for the US, Canada and Mexico to start in 2020, while Europe and China will follow in 2021. It is expected that the Rivian pair will also be produced for righthand-drive markets including Japan, the UK and Australia shortly after. The fledgling EV-maker said in a statement last week that it would not disclose additional details about the Amazon investment at this time, but it did confirm that Rivian would remain an independent company. With Amazon a key player in logistics and commerce, it could help Rivian with the development of a delivery vehicle. Amazon’s significant technology resources could also provide the company with autonomous mobility software and hardware to tackle the likes of Tesla’s Autopilot system. “This investment is an important milestone for Rivian and the shift to sustainable mobility,” said Rivian founder and chief executive RJ Scaringe |
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1 metre wading depth....
Be bloody keen to do a river crossing whilst driving a giant toaster. I mean, what could possibly go wrong with all that electrickery on board. |
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19-02-2019, 10:49 PM | #21 | ||
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Looks like it’s designed by professors and nerds. The mechanicals and electronics look spot on, but I guess they didn’t see the need to hire any artsy people to tidy up the styling
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It's easy right? Just draw up a list of specs and start building? |
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13-04-2019, 09:28 PM | #23 | ||
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Looks like the Rivian might have some competition. If these are the types of vehicles in the electric future, then bring it on I say.
https://www.atlismotorvehicles.com/ Atlis XT. EVERYTHING A PICKUP TRUCK SHOULD BE The XT Pickup is everything you expect in a truck: it’s rugged, it’s durable, it can perform in the most extreme conditions. It’s also designed to maximize passenger comfort, storage and usability. Meet the 100% electric Atlis XT. STANDARD FEATURES ASSEMBLED IN THE USA 4-WHEEL DRIVE WITH INDEPENDENT TRACTION MOTORS AT EACH WHEEL 4-WHEEL INDEPENDENT SUSPENSION ALL VEHICLES COME WITH A SINGLE SPEED GEAR BOX PER AXLE MASSIVE FRONT-TRUNK STORAGE ADVANCED REGENERATIVE BRAKING WITH DYNAMIC LOAD CONTROL SPRAY-IN BEDLINER We’re on a mission to revolutionize the way we configure and purchase pickup trucks. Say goodbye to packages and classes. When you purchase your XT Pickup Truck, choose the vehicle features and capabilities that meet your needs. CHARGING + BATTERY RANGE A quick charging vehicle for those that have busy schedules and need to keep going with minimal downtime. For the best performance charge your vehicle at an Atlis Motor Vehicles Advanced Charging station. It takes just 15 minutes. Or choose to connect to another charging station of your choice. Choose your driving range: 300 miles, 400 miles, or 500 miles. All ranges are based on an unloaded truck, with no cargo or trailer weights CHOOSE FROM: 500MILE RANGE 400MILE RANGE 300 MILE RANGE PERFORMANCE. AMPLIFIED. We use a unique air sprung suspension design with dynamic damping capabilities that adjusts to the vehicle load. This allows us to deliver a consistent and comfortable experience, every time. Final capabilities and options will vary. We are designing for a vehicle capable of towing up to 35,000 lb GCWR, up a 6% grade while maintaining 65mph (dually version). Single rear wheel (SRW) and Dual rear wheel (DRW or dually) options available. 0-60 MPH 5Sec TOP SPEED 120MPH 0-60 MPH AT MAX GCWR 18Sec TRAILER HITCH TOWING CAPABILITIES (lbs): 6,000 10,000 14,000 17,000 FIFTH WHEEL AND GOOSENECK TOWING CAPABILITIES (lbs GCWR): 20,000 25,000 30,000 35,000 PAYLOAD CAPABILITIES (lbs) 1,000 2,000 3,500 5,000 ADVANCED TRACTION CONTROL Enjoy the best traction control on the market. The XT Pickup independently controls power delivery and braking to each wheel, leveraging four independent drive motors with direct drive to each wheel. AVAILABLE SUSPENSION OPTIONS With air springs and an independent rear suspension, the Atlis Motor Vehicles ensures that heavy loads are properly leveled, while providing the utmost in ride comfort. Standard: Air spring with dynamic load damping and 12-inches of ground clearance Optional: Off-road long travel suspension with 15-inches of ground clearance * Off-road long travel suspension unavailable with higher towing and payload options FRONT CARGO The XT Pickup offers the largest usable front-trunk storage area ever. It’s capable of handling two large suitcases, your groceries, tool boxes, and beyond. With air springs and independent front suspension, the XT Pickup lowers for easy loading and unloading, while remaining level when in motion. MAXIMIZING SPACE The huge front cargo space is perfect for work and play. EASY ACCESS The fold down front gate means that loading and unloading is a breeze. POWER WHEN YOU NEED IT With two power outlets, you can charge your items and power your tools. TOTAL CONTROL A center-mounted digital touch screen will serve as the hub for vehicle, heating and cooling, and infotainment with Apple Carplay and Android Auto. Use its physical rotary knob to make fast commands and quickly change settings. The dash instrumentation will be a multi-split digital touch screen displaying all live vehicle information, including live video feeds from the standard driver assistance cameras. The unique UI behind the wheel ensures the user is in complete control and allows for various customization. This creates a personal connection as you will be able to create an aesthetic you want. SEATING & INTERIOR OPTIONS Front : 40/20/40 split bench seat Rear: 40/20/40 split bench seat with 60/40 fold Standard cloth seats with optional leather packages Standard vinyl interior with the option to upgrade to carpet ADVANCING TO AUTONOMOUS We’ll provide ongoing updates to our autonomous vehicle capabilities until we have reached Level 5 autonomous vehicle capabilities. Standard: Level 1 driver assistance with adaptive cruise control. Optional: Advanced adaptive cruise as well as parking and lane keeping assistance. Future: Advanced autonomous capabilities SAY GOODBYE TO SIDE MIRRORS With side cameras replacing the conventional wing mirrors, the Atlis XT has superior viewing angles allowing you to stay in total control of your surroundings. With screens either side of your steering wheel, the screens are large and provide a high quality video feed. STANDARD DRIVING ASSISTANCE CAMERAS Side-view mirror driver assistance Backup camera with corner peak Trailer hookup assist camera Fifth wheel and gooseneck hookup assist camera Forward-facing camera for parking assist UNDERSTATED BEAUTY OPTIONS TO MAKE IT YOURS AIR COMPRESSOR Choose to add an air compressor to your bed. BED LENGTHS 6.5ft bed or 8ft bed (standard with dually option). CAB SIZES Choose your cab configuration: 2+2 extended cab or a 4-door crew cab. POWER OUTLETS 120 volt / 20 amp and 240 volt / 40 amp power available. AN ELECTRIC PICKUP TRUCK SHOULDN'T REQUIRE COMPROMISE Own the next generation of pickup trucks. 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13-04-2019, 09:42 PM | #24 | ||
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I’d honestly rather drive something electric through water than internal combustion with it’s need for air. I have a little electric pod motor in my tinny and it’s been probably the most reliable motor I’ve ever had in a boat
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13-04-2019, 09:46 PM | #25 | ||
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No mention there of the carrosserie. Aluminium alloy or what for the chassis, and is the upper structure alloy or a mixture of that and composites?
NCAP results will be interesting, too. |
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I’m more excited about the Atlis XT than the Rivian.
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No specification on battery technology, depth of discharge, number of cycles. I would presume it uses hundreds of 18650 battery cells. What happens when a cell or a couple of dozen cells fail, how easily or not easily are these replaced, at what cost and can the average mechanic do this or will it require someone with a PhD in electrical engineering working in a clean room? What are the costs of disposal of energy packs. What are the true environmental costs. What is the range when travelling at -5 Celsius and what is the range travelling at +40 Celsius. What is the recharge time, what type of recharge system is needed, will our grid be able to support? The Rivian website lacks any useful information. |
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The benefits of a electrical Ute is actually huge.
- Big Fuel savings $$$ - Much more powerful torque and towing ability - Able to charge and connect power tools directly from the vehicle - Autonomy |
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