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17-07-2012, 10:06 AM | #1 | ||
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http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories...id=772582&vId=
another link to geelong addy http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/...8011_news.html just heard on sky news ford are currently in talks with the union and workers about cutting 440 jobs split between the Geelong and broady plants they are saying that it will be a 50/50 split hope all our mates here on aff are not in the firing line
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17-07-2012, 10:20 AM | #2 | ||
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Things will progressively get worse before they turn around. Good luck to those involved. If they are tradies then I would be hitting up mining hire companies pronto.
There is good and bad on the horizon, the sad fact is that all industries dont stay the same forever. I just hope those effected get the support they need.
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17-07-2012, 10:20 AM | #3 | ||
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Depressing news, good luck to all those affected.
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17-07-2012, 10:48 AM | #4 | ||
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Personally, Im convinced Ford could have done an ad campaign for the EcoLPI.
Cheaper to fill than a Mazda, more powerful, just as 'green'. Feel the Difference? I feel indifference from Ford AU marketing department! |
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17-07-2012, 11:04 AM | #5 | ||
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just heard this on the radio news.
Not good at all; best wishes to the people/families affected. Unfortunately sometimes things have to get worse before they can get better.
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17-07-2012, 11:12 AM | #6 | ||
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Sign of the times, not just the automotive industry.
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17-07-2012, 11:16 AM | #7 | ||
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My thoughts and best wishes to all those affected, the country slowly but surely continues to slide.......
Think the unemployment rate will hit 5.7% quicker than what they estimate
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17-07-2012, 11:27 AM | #8 | ||
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At the rate they are going, the Falcon will be lucky to survive until 2016 when the run of the FG is planned to end.
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17-07-2012, 11:33 AM | #9 | ||
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There hoping voluntary redundancies will take up most of those numbers, in the past they haven't had to much trouble with voluntary taking the offer first.
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17-07-2012, 11:34 AM | #10 | ||
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another artical this one confirms the job cuts
http://www.bayfm.com.au/index.php/ne...bs-get-the-axe my thoughts go out to all involved
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17-07-2012, 11:40 AM | #11 | |||
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best of luck to all those screwing together our favourite car, love your work! |
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17-07-2012, 11:44 AM | #12 | |||
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It's a sign of the economy I guess. Seems like so long ago since there was a good news announcement.
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17-07-2012, 11:49 AM | #13 | ||
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Anther article about the job cuts:
http://www.caradvice.com.au/182102/f...cuts-440-jobs/ Scaling back on vehicle production by 30% - what a massive cut! Thats 209 vehicles a day to 148! |
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17-07-2012, 11:49 AM | #14 | ||
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Sack the advertising department - they are useless!!!
Ford have the best range of cars they have ever had they need to tell people about it. Look at the great Jeep ads and their sales have increased 137%!!!!!! Come on Ford advertising! |
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17-07-2012, 12:00 PM | #15 | ||
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Ah! The annual mass-sacking and "rebalancing" - usually occurs around about this time of year.
Ford must be down to less than 1000 manufacturing staff after this, correct me if I'm wrong? That's 1,480 jobs gone since 2008 on my calculations. |
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17-07-2012, 12:01 PM | #16 | |||
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Sorry for the older workers, they have almost zero chance to find work out north. They will never recover from this, the name is now totally bashed, bit like the Magna/380 job, [mind u Mitsubishi have done real well with just importing, as did Nissan before them] the Asians have flooded the market with perhaps better suited and much cheaper vehicles, THE MARKET HAS SPOKEN. FoA, just pull the pin now, your flogging a more than dead horse, less than 150 cars a day cannot and will not work, billions outlay for this tiny return is insane. This is just the slow build up to shutting down totally, they know it, we know it. The ONLY save i see is slash the price by a massive amount, to say $29,999 driveaway [or less], $40k is laalaa land for the average punter. So now we will have a 2 horse race, BigT[tm.F/O] v The General slogging it out, i think the lion brand will blink first, Toyota for the win. And then...car manufacture in Australia....TheEnd! |
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17-07-2012, 12:03 PM | #17 | |||
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SUV's F150.F150.F150.F150.F150.F150.F150.F150.F150.... Last edited by RASER; 17-07-2012 at 12:08 PM. Reason: F150 please... |
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17-07-2012, 12:04 PM | #18 | ||
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^^ Yep 148 cars per day is just woeful.
Ford manufacturing in Australia is DEAD! NOTHING can sugarcoat this which ever way you look at it. |
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17-07-2012, 12:11 PM | #19 | ||
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FoA will survive, as an importer of vehicles, unfortunately..
Its a damn shame as they are building their best local vehicles ever. |
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17-07-2012, 12:14 PM | #20 | ||
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The writing is on the wall. Things have to get worse before they get better? The only thing worse at this stage is shutting down local production, which likely isn't far away. Surely the most diehard Holden fan is starting to get shaken by this. Lets see how hard Holden push without their main rival driving them.
Buy up these Falcon's people and enjoy them while you can. Very sad indeed, sorry to the workers out there impacted by this.
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17-07-2012, 12:15 PM | #21 | |||
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Of course they will, FoA will always be here, now i see NOTHING standing in the way of importing the F150! US$23K! in USA |
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17-07-2012, 12:29 PM | #22 | |||
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bay fm have got a copy of the e-mail sent to employees this morning
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17-07-2012, 12:44 PM | #23 | ||
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I find it disappointing the people feel it necessary to forward internal stuff publicly.
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17-07-2012, 12:55 PM | #25 | |||
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17-07-2012, 01:06 PM | #26 | |||
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17-07-2012, 01:08 PM | #27 | ||
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Can we keep the posts about the thread topic (job losses) there is no need to branch this thread into running commentary on things that are not related, use PM for that.
Posts well be deleted.
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17-07-2012, 01:22 PM | #28 | ||
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Unfortunately you can't post a record loss without job cuts. I agree with others: almost zero advertising for the ecoboost and lpi - the buying public (outside Ford fans) doesn't know these cars exist. And I agree: Ford Aus will be import only soon, especially with Commodore sales drying up the government will pull alot if not all of it's subsidies that are keeping the Falcon/Commodore afloat (or on life support)....
It's a shame that it's the innocent workers taking the brunt of this and not incompetent management. |
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17-07-2012, 01:39 PM | #29 | ||
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So 148 cars a day x 20 working days a month (on average) x 12 months is about 35.5K cars a year. So that means that Ford must be projecting to sell:
Falcon Sedan - 12,000 cars (1000 monthly average) Falcon Ute - 6,000 cars (500 monthly average) Territory - 17,500 cars (1450 monthly average) |
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17-07-2012, 01:47 PM | #30 | |||
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One point, if today Campbellfield ran at maximum plant production it would build more Falcons then the Australian market is buying of Commodores, Aurions/Camry's, Accords, Maximas, and any other large car combined. This is the real problem and sadly Ford marketing has no chance of reversing this because Holden and Toyota are not increasing their large car sales either. |
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