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Old 11-10-2013, 07:42 PM   #1
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can anyone tell me what this engine is please.

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Old 11-10-2013, 07:48 PM   #2
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a ford six , looks like a non cross flow 200 log motor
you goy any more details eg is it the original for the vehicle and what vehicle that would be may be also some engine numbers or vehicle id numbers
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At a guess it looks like its in an XW or XY.
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Old 11-10-2013, 07:59 PM   #4
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Hi wodahs, it was in an xw ute i'm starting to do up. It isn't the original engine and was mated to a single rail 4 speed. Just wondering if its any good to anyone or I will end up taking it to scrap.Yes express your right. Pat.
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:03 PM   #5
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Hmm, silver rocker cover. Not sure if that's original but the XW also came in a 3.6.
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Its got a weird number on it PJ and 4 or 5 numbers on it
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If you can, before you junk it take a couple more photos from other angles and post up all the engine numbers and casting marks and maybe someone experienced in the classics will be able to help.



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Old 11-10-2013, 08:38 PM   #8
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i will try to put some more up tomorrow

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with the grey rocker cover and green air cleaner I was reckoning 200cube (3.6ltr) but that's if its the original rocker cover for that motor , still recon this but could be a 250cube (4.1ltr) from memory the 250 got the red rocker cover and blue air cleaner
from memory air cleaner snout went to passenger shocky tower missing rubber hose of oil filler love the red oil bottle does it have the heater connected ? heater pipes should go thro the steel ring (bracket)on left shocky tower
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Old 11-10-2013, 09:06 PM   #10
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Hi wodahs, it was in an xw ute i'm starting to do up. It isn't the original engine and was mated to a single rail 4 speed. Just wondering if its any good to anyone or I will end up taking it to scrap.Yes express your right. Pat.
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Old 12-10-2013, 12:02 AM   #11
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An old trick is to photo copy your rego papers & license then post it to ford in Victoria. Being such an old engine they might not have any factory info on file but if they do then they should be able to give you the original factory info on that particular car.

Alternatively drive it to a local ford dealer & ask for the most senior guy in the workshop. Alternatively take lots of pics & show the mechanics.
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Old 12-10-2013, 02:49 PM   #12
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Hi Fella's, the air cleaner is actually blue under the green, it has the steel loop on the left side shock tower, the red container was for fuel to run the engine.I'm in moss vale nsw. I don't have any rego papers as it hasn't been rego'd for quite a while.

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Old 12-10-2013, 03:21 PM   #13
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ARD1 = 1971 casting. either 200 or 250. pull plug and measure stroke.
If its 3.126" (79.4 mm), it's a 200
If its 3.910" (99.314 mm), it's a 250


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with the grey rocker cover and green air cleaner I was reckoning 200cube (3.6ltr)
200 - 3.3
221 - 3.6
250 - 4.1
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Old 12-10-2013, 03:35 PM   #14
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with the grey rocker cover and green air cleaner I was reckoning 200cube (3.6ltr)
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200 - 3.3
221 - 3.6
250 - 4.1
forgot bout the 221 and mixed up the two but am still thinking 200
smallest I ever had to work with was the 250 rest were 302's n 51,s
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I agree on the 200 theory as well. Not many optioned up to the 250 early on.
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:01 PM   #16
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ARD1 = 1971 casting. either 200 or 250. pull plug and measure stroke.
If its 3.126" (79.4 mm), it's a 200
If its 3.910" (99.314 mm), it's a 250
i am not sure about the numbers but sounds logical. if it is a 1971 build then it would have to be either 200 or 250cid.
i think that the 200s had blue rocker cover and the 250 had orange cover.

the silver rocker cover would be off a 221cid which would have been the original engine in an XW (pretty sure the XW 188cid was blue) . from memory the breather cap is from 188 - 221 type engines as well.
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Old 13-10-2013, 01:40 AM   #17
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Yeah, the casting code seems right, although I'm never sure whether that means it was cast in 1971, or designed in 1971? The “A” indicates it’s the first version…
Can you make out the engine number? It would be interesting to know what model it came from.

So as a 71 engine, it’s a 200 or a 250 (as others have said.)

Since it has been fitted to an XW, it’s possible they kept some original bits (or re-sprayed them) to cosmetically match the original engine.
I would hazard a guess that this would be a 250 (1V) as otherwise I can’t see much point in the “upgrade.”

Value wise, the most obvious point is that it is a log-head (1V) so unless somebody wants to do a really authentic rebuild, they’d want to ditch the head for at least a 2V.
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Old 13-10-2013, 09:37 AM   #18
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I took a plug out and it looks like it measures up as a 250. Thanks to everyone for their help in working it out. Pat.
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Old 13-10-2013, 12:29 PM   #19
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It can only be a 200 or 250 from XY to XC as it has the later block casting with the larger water pump fitted from XYs on.
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Old 13-10-2013, 07:19 PM   #20
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now u just need a nice 250 2 v to put in their and have some fun
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Old 13-10-2013, 07:29 PM   #21
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I'm not keeping it I have other plans for the ute.
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