Tell me that's not money making....

[Bushbasher]

Just watching sunrise and they're saying the vic police are moving the goal posts again and can now hide mobile speed cameras and set up at the bottom of hills. How much of this crap are vic drivers going to take before there's a serious revolt. This should be interesting to watch.

Bushbasher

[Trump]

When they have nothing left to lose...

[chevypower]

It's not money making, it's all about safety. The anticipated revenue estimates are purely coincidental. Ignore the fact that there's no hypothesis about the number of lives that will be saved.

[xxx000]

people should get their brakes checked if they can't stop or even slow their car down

using some peoples logic if they lived in a house on a decent downhill section of road then the only way they could slow enough to enter their driveway would be coming up the hill

[Sorted]

They have already started with a pic on facebook of a Speed Camera Car behind a bush


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law...-1226739895665

Victoria Police adjusts mobile speed camera rules to allow cameras to be concealed

EXCLUSIVE: VICTORIA Police has rewritten its mobile speed camera rules specifically to allow cameras to be hidden and used on hills.

The force policy used to say that "under no circumstances" were cameras to be concealed by any covert means.

It also used to ban them on downhill stretches of road unless the site had a significant speed-related crash record.

The new rules - effective immediately - permit mobile speed cameras to be hidden behind trees, bushes, posts and road signs to lessen the risk of harm to camera operators from angry motorists.

They also allow them to be used at the bottom of hills and on slopes if the "road safety objective" can't be achieved at an alternative location.

"There is no restriction from a technical, legislative or enforcement perspective on a mobile road safety camera being operated on a slope, hill or gradient," the new rules say.

The force spent months creating its new policy after the Herald Sun revealed some cameras were being hidden despite the ban and also that fines had to be scrapped because a camera was wrongly set up on a steep hill.

Almost 510,000 motorists paid more than $103 million in mobile speed camera fines in the past year.

Victoria Police yesterday defended the changes to the mobile speed camera policy, saying they included recommendations made by speed camera commissioner Gordon Lewis.

"The amendments were made to specifically focus on the occupational health and safety of mobile speed camera operators, which is paramount in ensuring they can work in a safe environment," force spokesman Leonie Johnson said.

Police told Mr Lewis the use of concealed or partly hidden cameras was necessary to protect camera operators from injury.

Mr Lewis yesterday congratulated Victoria Police for clearly spelling out its mobile speed camera policy in a document that will be publicly available on the camerassavelives.vic.gov.au website.

"Transparency and clarity are fundamental to the motoring public's trust in the road safety camera system," he said

Police rewrote the rules after Mr Lewis asked Herald Sun readers in October last year to report any mobile speed cameras they believed were being used in breach of force guidelines.

He did so after the Herald Sun revealed speeding fines had to be scrapped because a mobile camera was wrongly set up over the brow of a hill to snap motorists going down a steep slope on Warrigal Rd, Surrey Hills.

Mr Lewis's plea to Herald Sun readers resulted in reports about 116 mobile camera sites they believed breached Victoria Police guidelines

His nine-month probe found in each case the cameras had been set up fairly and according to the guidelines.

While he did identify three camera sites that were placed on unsuitable downhill stretches of road, he agreed with the decisions of regional police inspectors to override the rules and allow the use of cameras on those hills for safety reasons.

Mr Lewis said it was Herald Sun readers who discovered the controversial hidden camera tactic.

He asked Victoria Police for a ``please explain'' and was told the hidden cameras identified by the readers were put behind shrubs and road signs to protect the camera operators.

Mr Lewis was shown CCTV footage shot from inside a number of camera vehicles showing cars and trucks being driven at camera cars.

Police told him the drivers were ``deliberately intimidating'' the speed camera operators.

keith.moor@news.com.au

[LG17]

It's not money making!

But then I'm a liar

[The FOMOCO]

Originally Posted by Bushbasher

Just watching sunrise and they're saying the vic police are moving the goal posts again and can now hide mobile speed cameras and set up at the bottom of hills. How much of this crap are vic drivers going to take before there's a serious revolt. This should be interesting to watch.

Bushbasher

I couldn't agree more bushbasher the police think the public are dumb sheep im sure. Were hiding in bushes etc now with our cameras at the bottom of a big hill we were threatened by some people and were scared we might need our mums . what a load of bullshitee just another REVENUE GRAB pathetic VIC police

[csv8]

They do in Queensland..and you get fined for flashing lights as a warning!!!
In Australia, there are various laws and infringements against this offence depending on the state or territory. In Queensland, for example, it’s $40 fine and one demerit point if convicted on the spot. If the matter is taken to court however, and the accused is found guilty, it’s a $1500 fine
http://www.carsguide.com.au/.../head...is_free_speech

[blackf6]

I was driving along the Bruce Highway this morning 2am. Saw to high vis clothed people. On approach turned out to be 2 coppers hiding behind light posts in the center median strip with a handheld radar. Queensland have no rights. WE live in a dictator state.

[Bearman]

"Uphold the Right (Tenez le Droit)" goes the VicPol slogan. Perhaps "Protect and enhance the revenue (Screw over the motorist)" is more appropriate.

How do you remedy speed camera sites that breach guidelines? Scrap the guidelines!! Very classy.

Easy money for the Nanny State, they'll rake in heaps more now.

Driving just isn't fun anymore.

[paule11]

Originally Posted by teak81

I was driving along the Bruce Highway this morning 2am. Saw to high vis clothed people. On approach turned out to be 2 coppers hiding behind light posts in the center median strip with a handheld radar. Queensland have no rights. WE live in a dictator state.

Saw that outside the Army barracks in Townsville behind a sign huddled together I slowed down as I thought what the hell are these 2 people doing behind the sign thought they where having sex.

[Trump]

Originally Posted by paule11

Saw that outside the Army barracks in Townsville behind a sign huddled together I slowed down as I thought what the hell are these 2 people doing behind the sign thought they where having sex.

That long thing WASN'T a speed detection device

[EDManual]

Wa is the worst with their hidden black tripods. Invisible! Hope we dont get those!

[Motorbreath310]

In other news;


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-1...962?section=nt

Better start developing a taste for dust and crap beer!

[bangm001]

So its legal to flash people with lights or high beams to warm them of a approaching camera? Does this apply to us here in SA?

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by bangm001

So its legal to flash people with lights or high beams to warm them of a approaching camera? Does this apply to us here in SA?

I thought the rule stated flashing HBs was illegal. Probably changed it to all lights by now.

[V8 6I]

If you slow someone down by flashing your lights you have just prevented a crime,So you just did the public some good not evil.

[Spurious]

I guess a lot of people like to speed! Keep it up, the governments loving the income.

[hodge_williams]

how is this not deception? they are deceiving us on the belief we are approaching a bush or a lightpole and then bam it is a radar or camera.

I am all for obeying the law, if you do the crime you do the time, etc, but this is beyond a joke.

[kaniSS]

I hope they put a camera on every street in NSW. The majority of Drivers in Sydney are absolute idiots.

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by Sorted

They have already started with a pic on facebook of a Speed Camera Car behind a bush

I prefer looking at photos from a camera infront of a bush....

Or no bush.....

Or neatly trimmed bush.....

Just as long as the camera is infront of the bush

[prydey]

are all you blokes young fella's???

cops hiding behind bushes, trapping you down hills, etc etc is nothing new. that was the norm not that long ago.

why the big song and dance.

[MAD]

Cops have always been able to hide.

This change is for the mobile private sector operated vehicles.

[csv8]

Originally Posted by Revolver 45

I prefer looking at photos from a camera infront of a bush....

Or no bush.....

Or neatly trimmed bush.....

Just as long as the camera is infront of the bush

Black Lable Penthouse

[superyob]

Originally Posted by teak81

I was driving along the Bruce Highway this morning 2am. Saw to high vis clothed people. On approach turned out to be 2 coppers hiding behind light posts in the center median strip with a handheld radar. Queensland have no rights. WE live in a dictator state.

No rights? Dictator state? Really?

[DallasXR6]

Cmon let's even this up, I can disguise my car (specifically the front and rear bumpers) with leaves too?

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by Bushbasher

Just watching sunrise and they're saying the vic police are moving the goal posts again and can now hide mobile speed cameras and set up at the bottom of hills.

Been doing that in WA for decades.

[joolz]

Originally Posted by kaniSS

I hope they put a camera on every street in NSW. The majority of Drivers in Sydney are absolute idiots.

Cameras dont pick up idiots, only speeding drivers even if its walking pace over the limit...

[MrXR8]

more highway patrol cars is the way to catch both speeders and potential lunnie toons. cameras just raise revenue. im all for catching speeding drivers and taking the fools off the road.

im all for them raising the state tax a touch to pay for the extra patrol cars to do it. but do it with them not cameras.

on another note, how much would it scare the crap outa a young and dumb P plater to see a tough GTR Spec highway patrol car hunting them down!!!!

they would never speed again.

[GCRXR6]

Come on guys. Cameras don't raise revenue. They can't ... they're a tool used by a tool to photograph a tool who chooses to exceed the speed limit set by the tools who were elected to formulate good laws to protect us from ourselves and all of the other tools.