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30-10-2013, 11:55 AM | #1 | ||||
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The government media release today (attributed to Hon Joe Hockey MP) is here:
http://jbh.ministers.treasury.gov.au...ease/015-2013/ Quote:
Details on how to make a submission are here http://www.pc.gov.au/projects/inquir...ake-submission And the cover sheet you will need to go along with it is here: http://www.pc.gov.au/__data/assets/w...ion-cover.docx I for one will be making a submission. Carrying on in an internet forum about the car industry or its problems or why certain things should/should not be the way they are is useless – now is your chance to get your point across to the decision makers. Unless of course you’re not really interested or don’t care either way, then this subject and the thread itself won’t interest you, so just toddle along now. There’s a good lad Also, Quote:
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30-10-2013, 02:26 PM | #2 | |||
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Looks like Holden is gone... :
I reckon they will announce closure within a matter of weeks. Quote:
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30-10-2013, 02:32 PM | #3 | ||
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These guys already know why it is not profitable to manufacture material/labor/energy intensive product in Australia, cost, but it will be interesting to see a breakdown of it.
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30-10-2013, 02:35 PM | #4 | ||
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^^ Yep. 2013 will be the year in which Australia's car industry ceased forever.
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30-10-2013, 02:50 PM | #5 | ||
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My personal opinion is that this review is several years too late and will probably be next to useless. The damage has been done in the intervening years as governments didn't listen and the car makers dithered when consumer demands shifted.
I'll still make a submission, but, yeah. I guess my submission will be a bit on the cynical side. Ford warned the federal government in 2002 in a submission to the Productivity Commission that it considered the 10% tariff and ACIS (which was linked to the tariffs) to provide the optimum balance between industry protection and market competitiveness and that any further erosion of this policy structure would leave the Australian car industry exposed to international market and economic forces, which the industry would not be able to withstand long term. Bear in mind this was in 2002. In a nutshell, Ford said that any further erosion of the tariffs would produce little benefit but significant consequences for the viability of the industry. The Productivity Commission and the government of the day ignored what Ford predicted and carried on regardless. Guess who was right? It wasn't the government...
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30-10-2013, 07:05 PM | #6 | ||
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Who signed the last lot of one sided Free Trade Agreements especially the one with Thailand?
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31-10-2013, 05:48 AM | #7 | ||
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The more the country is sold out to cheap labour the higher the risk of not having a future to sustain the population.
You look at the protections other countries put in place to keep a constant effort for their people yet ours seem to sell us out at every opportunity under the banner of global competivness. At some point their wont be enough money staying in the country to pay any bills. Is the plan to sell us out like Greece? Cars trucks and buses built overseas = no carbon tax Australia = carbon tax, therefore instantly more expensive. Regardless of the other crap how do you compete with that on a pure cost for dost basis you can't. Look what Electrolux said to Orange sorry too expensive here for us Asia is cheaper. If you do a table up with any industry that's suffering and it's the same story. Would be interesting to see what has degraded over the last 10 to 15 years to see what's shut down and what policy was made and when. Last edited by timeout; 31-10-2013 at 05:55 AM. Reason: Spelling. |
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31-10-2013, 07:31 AM | #8 | ||
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The review is too little, too late.
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31-10-2013, 08:06 AM | #9 | ||
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By the time this review is finished it will only be applicable to empty factories full of cob webs.
Something has to be done now. Like right now.
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31-10-2013, 08:26 AM | #10 | |||
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