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22-01-2008, 08:41 PM | #31 | ||
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Turbo diesel commo?
Holden have always had a 'concept' on display at a motor show, to draw attention away from Ford...whilst ford has had bugger all, Except for the R5 (and R7)and 300+ |
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22-01-2008, 08:47 PM | #32 | ||
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Thought that it was strange to be in melb but it didn't have those wavy things on the bottom of the doors, that's why i thought it might be a commodore
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22-01-2008, 09:33 PM | #33 | |||
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22-01-2008, 09:57 PM | #34 | ||
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Sv6 Turbo?
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22-01-2008, 10:19 PM | #35 | ||
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If not the Camaro, the Corvette or the Cadillac
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22-01-2008, 11:13 PM | #36 | ||
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its definatley the torona but im almost sure it will be in twin turbo diesel form. from what i have heard the test cars have been making 600nm of torque but i cant remember the power level i know it was over 200 kilowatts. also heard 8L\100klm fuel economy
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23-01-2008, 01:25 AM | #37 | ||
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My guesses,
1. HSV commodore with the LS9 (supercharged 6.2), not the 7.0 as the 6.2 has a wet sump and will fit in the commodore bay easier. 2. torana...in some form 3. Cadillac CTS-V |
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23-01-2008, 07:35 AM | #38 | |||
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On another note, am i the only one that thinks Fords marketing team should be sacked and replaced? or is this a commen feeling within the AFF. It's about time Ford stop playing catch up and start to lead the Australian market.
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23-01-2008, 07:44 AM | #39 | |||
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But personally I hope its a production Torana with TT Diesel. |
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23-01-2008, 09:50 AM | #40 | ||
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It is probably this new crewman that was in Mellor on the 16 Jan
http://www.mellor.net/mellor/enews.n...toNews_416.pdf |
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23-01-2008, 10:59 AM | #41 | |||
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23-01-2008, 12:18 PM | #42 | ||
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there gonna release a commodore that starts every time doesnt leak fuel doesnt have a poxy h/brake thats sticks on & doesnt have ecu,s & bem,s that em selfs or dashes that fall apart......A series II VE is what its called.....
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23-01-2008, 12:24 PM | #43 | ||
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Diesel Commodore
2 Door Commodore Torana 7L HSV Chevvy Comaro Cadillac CTS I'm expecting one of the above items. |
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23-01-2008, 12:30 PM | #44 | ||
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I'm going with a turbo diesal as there are mules running around for evaluation at present, with a launch in 2010
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23-01-2008, 01:04 PM | #45 | |||
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23-01-2008, 01:07 PM | #46 | ||
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I reckon it looked alright, but that picture isn't much good. I mean look at the wheelbase? What sedan based ute has a 5 metre wheelbase...
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23-01-2008, 01:11 PM | #47 | ||
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i would have to guess torana as an actual production car
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23-01-2008, 03:22 PM | #48 | |||
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Seriously though, it wont just be an engine because how do you make an engine stand out in the crowd at a motor show? You dont. It will be something different, perhaps the Torana - which they have already said is going to be built - or maybe, just maybe a new Crewman type Ute thing but about a metre shorter than that chop in the pic above (yuk) Whatever it is it will have to be an eye catcher, otherwise it will just be another "so what?" to the average punter who sees it emblazoned across the front page of the various motoring publications |
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23-01-2008, 03:30 PM | #49 | ||
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A brown R8, oh wait, that was last time.
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23-01-2008, 04:00 PM | #50 | |||
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23-01-2008, 06:12 PM | #51 | |||
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If its put in a production ready torana then that would get a lot of attention. Also a possibility is direct injection for the V6's. |
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23-01-2008, 06:29 PM | #52 | ||
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Latest Street Machine mag has a feature of a LC GTR and on pg 69 there is a small write up titled "MO JO WORKING". It shows a little detailed history of the torry and sums up by stating "Now there's a strong chance that Holden will re-introduce the name on a car with a similar mid-sized, rear drive platform and mojo!
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23-01-2008, 07:58 PM | #53 | |||
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For the sake of impact its gotta be the Torana, there isn't really much else that Holden has thats at the Monaro concept car level, well not from Australia anyway (bring on the Camaro!) |
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23-01-2008, 11:24 PM | #54 | ||
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HSV will likely be releasing a couple of things.
- The new GenIV that has to replace all current HSV LS2 6.0L before June30th. It is called the LS3 and is a 6.2L with new cylinder heads and ~325kw. - HSV Estate Wagon may be released. - You can bet that HSV held back the GTS-R with LS7 from the Sydney Motor Show to try and steal the attention from the Orion You can pretty much guarantee that Holden will officially release the VE Wagon at MMS. Torana.... not likely. Camaro, maybe as a pure promo vehicle to gauge viability. |
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23-01-2008, 11:37 PM | #55 | ||
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The VE wagon and ute range has only just been released... so i'd reckon they'd hold out on special editions on both for a while yet.
Camaro import is in the works isn't it? might be 1-2 years away yet though. *shrugs
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24-01-2008, 05:24 PM | #56 | ||
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Can't tell if this had been mentioned:
From www.autoblog.com Australian outlet GoAuto is reporting that GM Car Czar Bob Lutz has confirmed that a four-door ute concept based on Holden's rear-wheel-drive Zeta platform but wearing a GMC badge will debut at the New York Auto Show in late March. From Bob's description, the vehicle is much like the Holden Crewman, which was a version of the Holden Ute with its wheelbase stretched to accommodate a second row of seats and two more doors (all-wheel-drive was also eventually an option). The concept debuting in Detroit will be wearing very masculine GMC styling cues, however, and sounds as if it will be billed as a unibody pickup. This gives the GMC four-door ute a good shot at production since GM knows that demand for trucks in the future has to be satisfied with vehicles that are more fuel efficient than body-on-frame trucks. A recent spate of unibody truck concepts like the Toyota A-BAT Concept and Ford Explorer America Concept show that automakers are very interested in switching to lighter unibody platforms for vehicles that have traditionally been truck-based. Lutz also points out the obvious upside that if the GMC four-door ute is popular with the public, it can be sold in Australia as Holden's replacement for the Crewman, which wasn't updated along with the rest of the Ute lineup last year.
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24-01-2008, 05:28 PM | #57 | ||
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You'd be a bit silly to think that a Crewman will upstage the Orion. This will be something in the league of "Effigy". It might be there but I doubt its going to be thier "ace" card.
Thats based on the original article of course. I have very low expectations when it comes to Australian Motor shows.
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24-01-2008, 07:00 PM | #58 | |||
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i think Holden have taken a leaf out of FPV's book and applied hyperboles to new stripe packages. |
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24-01-2008, 07:06 PM | #59 | ||
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Yeah that was HSV though, this is Holden and Bob Lutz. Different animal, same droppings.
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26-01-2008, 10:36 AM | #60 | ||
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Bob Lutz has said it will be a technological showcase, so it won't be a Torana, GTS-R or Crewman. Might be something similar to Toyota's Sportivo concept of a few years ago, a futuristic look forward. Probably running a hybrid powertrain.
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