VFacts August 2012 (provisional)

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by prydey

August 2002
1. Holden commodore 7097
2. Ford Falcon 4744
3. Toyota Corolla 3185
4. Holden Astra 2538
5. Mitsi magna/verada 2059
6. Toyota camry 1879
7. Mitsi Lancer 1771
8. Ford Laser 1422
9. Honda crv 1342
10. Nissan pulsar 1289

interesting to note that 1300 sales only just scrapes you into the top 20 now whereas 10 years ago it was top 10 figures.

also, corolla hasn't really changed all that much.

Spot on, it takes nearly the top 4 today to match the numbers of the top 2 back in '02, and if you moved to the hey days of the BA vs VT/VY it would be top 5 today = top 2 in 2003/4.

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by Wretched

Aurion should have Camry figures added to it, both same car just with different engines (Camry the 4 cylinder).

Liberty, Mazda6 and Maxima are considered medium cars and not in the same segment as Falcon and Commodore. Within the medium segment it includes Mondeo, Accord, Passat, etc. More makes, tougher competition.

Maxima is a en E segment large car I think you will find. Soon to be stopped altogether, and replaced with the D segment Altima.

[Falcman0o7]

Wouldn't the yanks love our XR6T, G6ET, and FPV's!

Oh they do! They just can't buy them! ( without importing them )

[Nikked]

Falcon obviously sold too much...no pointing the finger or marketing criticisms...yet.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Nikked

Falcon obviously sold too much...no pointing the finger or marketing criticisms...yet.

shhh, its been quite refreshing

[Joe5619]

Originally Posted by Nikked

Falcon obviously sold too much...no pointing the finger or marketing criticisms...yet.

I'll bit, I was going to keep quite as not to bringing anther topic down, but when silly things like this are written!!

Too much? Both Falcon & Territory are down on last year for the month of August! How anyone could be claiming this as a good month for either Falcon or territory is beyond me.

[EDManual]

300-350 odd ecolpis a month is ok isnt it? (and should improve further) and I am seeing a few ecoboosts around too.

[jpd80]

I'm curious to know why Falcon sales jumped 500 compared to July...

[GT014]

Good to see a great jump for Falcon. I really hope next month is another increase of a few hundred (wishful??) then the press might have a positive spin on Fords Future !!

[In Focus]

Originally Posted by prydey

August 2002
1. Holden commodore 7097
2. Ford Falcon 4744
3. Toyota Corolla 3185
4. Holden Astra 2538
5. Mitsi magna/verada 2059
6. Toyota camry 1879
7. Mitsi Lancer 1771
8. Ford Laser 1422
9. Honda crv 1342
10. Nissan pulsar 1289

interesting to note that 1300 sales only just scrapes you into the top 20 now whereas 10 years ago it was top 10 figures.

also, corolla hasn't really changed all that much.

No, it hasn't. It's still got the same motor and gearbox, and if you squint a little, the same basic design.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Joe5619

I'll bit, I was going to keep quite as not to bringing anther topic down, but when silly things like this are written!!

Too much? Both Falcon & Territory are down on last year for the month of August! How anyone could be claiming this as a good month for either Falcon or territory is beyond me.

answer me this. why do people keep assuming that cars should keep selling in similar numbers regardless of market forces??

i always get the feeling there are those that will never be happy unless falcon somehow gets back to selling nearly 3000month. that will never happen, and its no fault of the falcon.

[The Snout]

August 2011
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Holden Commodore 3682
Holden Cruze 3234

August 2012
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Holden Commodore 2435
Holden Cruze 2628

[The Snout]

Originally Posted by Joe5619

I'll bit, I was going to keep quite as not to bringing anther topic down, but when silly things like this are written!!

Too much? Both Falcon & Territory are down on last year for the month of August! How anyone could be claiming this as a good month for either Falcon or territory is beyond me.

An 18% combined drop off in Sales in 12 months.

From a home grown POV I don't see the good news either. But as a whole with Ranger doing well things might be alright overall for Ford.

When looking at Holden numbers too my concern is the overall drop off in local product buying. Not just a Ford thing.

[Road_Warrior]

Year on year there may be a decrease, but if you look at the Falcon's numbers for this calendar year, I think you'll find that it's August 2012 numbers are the second highest for this year (behind 1400 units for June)

[turbodewd]

Maybe the praise from Wheels for the EcoBoost Falcon has been the catalyst for a bump in fleet sales too.

Im now seeing ads for Opel on TV, this highlights the massive competition were seeing in the AU auto market. And I think Europeans seeing how good our economy is are targeting our market too.

[Poetic Justice]

Originally Posted by In Focus

No, it hasn't. It's still got the same motor and gearbox, and if you squint a little, the same basic design.

Corolla gets major update for November release. Watch this space, it will dominate.

[Blue_XR]

Originally Posted by The Snout

August 2011
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Holden Commodore 3682
Holden Cruze 3234

August 2012
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Holden Commodore 2435
Holden Cruze 2628

This is an interesting set of numbers, however you do not see the media with the doom and gloom against the commodore. This just goes to highlight the fact that the large cars are getting hurt in this market. People are happy to buy SUV's that consume more juice though. I have a cousin with a Mitsubishi Outlander V6 and that consumes 18-20 around town, that is Sydney traffic.

I am not sure with the Cruze as I have only ever sat in one, however I was not impressed with it compared to other small cars that I have been in. There were rough edges on the door handles, which is not good enough. I did manage to drive the current model golf TSI on the weekend and it is a well put together car.

[Brazen]

Originally Posted by Blue_XR

This is an interesting set of numbers, however you do not see the media with the doom and gloom against the commodore.

They also sold 731 Caprices in the US that month as well.

[Joe5619]

Originally Posted by prydey

answer me this. why do people keep assuming that cars should keep selling in similar numbers regardless of market forces??

i always get the feeling there are those that will never be happy unless falcon somehow gets back to selling nearly 3000month. that will never happen, and its no fault of the falcon.

Market forces from this year to last year have not changes much!!! I actually think it was a pretty good month for Falcon (sort of) when compared to prior months of this year. I just didn't ready like the comment that made me make my reply.



Back on topic.. 731 carprcies in the US is a really good number. And I see no reason why Falcon can't get back to 2000+ per month.. Carmry is mid 2's evey month & Falcon should be able to match IMO.

[phillyc]

Originally Posted by jpd80

I'm curious to know why Falcon sales jumped 500 compared to July...

FPV released the R-Spec GT and there was 350 of them. All apparently spoken for. So, even if just a portion were sold / registered in the month then that is some of the jump!

Perhaps 15% of Falcons for the month might've been FPV's

[MrZ]

Originally Posted by EDManual

300-350 odd ecolpis a month is ok isnt it? (and should improve further) and I am seeing a few ecoboosts around too.

What's ecoplis? Sounds like something you need to see your doctor about.

[Pandemic]

Why's the Toyota HiLux selling well anyway? That was the car that I least expected to go well..

[Poetic Justice]

So many back orders in the system that are finally being delivered I'd say.

We still do not have even close to a healthy supply of Hilux.

[turbodewd]

Originally Posted by MrZ

What's ecoplis? Sounds like something you need to see your doctor about.

Go www.ford.com.au/falcon and you will see the EcoLPI Falcon.

[turbodewd]

Originally Posted by SCUD

Corolla gets major update for November release. Watch this space, it will dominate.

Garbage. Corolla buyers care static, they are A-to-B people, grille updates or interior updates dont make any difference to them. What are you even doing in these Ford forums Mr Toyota fan?

[buggerlugs]

http://www.news.com.au/business/comp...-1226465069436
I don't care what badge is on that car, It is plain ugly thou........

[Brazen]

Interesting to see what happens when you add ute numbers to the local cars.

If you add 778 Holden Utes to the Commodore figure, it goes to number 2 seller at 3213.

Im not sure of Falcon ute sales in August, but Im sure it would of cracked the 2000 mark once added to Falcon sedan.

I suppose the utes are another reason to stay RWD.

[Mr Hardware]

Originally Posted by In Focus

No, it hasn't. It's still got the same motor and gearbox, and if you squint a little, the same basic design.

It's not quite the same motor - whilst being very similar, the 1ZZ-FE only had VCT on the exhaust cam but the 2ZR-FE has VCT on both cams.

[Mr Hardware]

Originally Posted by turbodewd

Garbage. Corolla buyers care static, they are A-to-B people, grille updates or interior updates dont make any difference to them. What are you even doing in these Ford forums Mr Toyota fan?

wrong

[bobthebilda]

Some further details-

http://www.caradvice.com.au/189379/c...ners-losers-2/

Top 10 Best-selling Vehicles – August 2012

1.Toyota HiLux – 4010
2.Mazda3 – 2990
3.Toyota Corolla – 2945
4.Holden Cruze – 2628
5.Holden Commodore – 2435
6.Toyota Camry – 2130
7.Hyundai i30 – 2125
8.Nissan Navara – 2017
9.Mazda CX-5 – 1679
10.Ford Ranger – 1629


Top 10 Best-selling Vehicles – 2012 to date

1.Mazda3 – 28,158
2.Toyota HiLux – 27,585
3.Toyota Corolla – 24,956
4.Holden Cruze – 20,940
5.Holden Commodore – 20,694
6.Hyundai i30 – 18,170
7.Nissan Navara – 17,961
8.Toyota Camry – 14,853
9.Toyota Yaris – 12,835
10.Toyota Prado – 12,035


Top 10 Best-selling Brands – August 2012

1.Toyota – 17,996
2.Holden – 11,271
3.Ford – 7795
4.Hyundai – 7732
5.Mazda – 7685
6.Nissan – 6487
7.Volkswagen – 4344
8.Mitsubishi – 4075
9.Honda – 3842
10.Subaru – 3204


Top 10 Best-selling Brands – 2012 to date

1.Toyota – 141,811
2.Holden – 76,390
3.Mazda – 67,769
4.Hyundai – 60,645
5.Ford – 58,128
6.Nissan – 52,521
7.Mitsubishi – 38,642
8.Volkswagen – 35,274
9.Subaru – 27,568
10.Honda – 22,864