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Old 11-02-2014, 07:02 PM   #31
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Very interesting "smoko table discussion subject".

I'd like to predict I'll still have my old '82 Celica...obviously with some modifications by then.
Our "main car" at the moment is a car that suits our purposes extremely well. It's a mid-2011 Triton twin cab 4x4. It would be perfectly possible to just keep on trucking with that thing for years to come, barring some catastrophic mechanical failure. It would only be six years old in 2017.

However, say we needed something else, it would, at all my predictions, be another twin cab 4x4 diesel auto. Undoubtedly turbo diesels will just get better and better and more efficient.
I'd probably do what we did this time...pick something a year or two old with plenty of warranty left. Potentially a Ford Ranger as I like the look of them, but definitely second hand, as new prices on them are just about as ridiculous as Hilux's ludicrous prices under the "Toyota Tax"...second hand is the only way to go.

Taxis? Around Rocky I mostly see bloody Prius taxis, people movers, and hybrid Camrys.

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Old 11-02-2014, 07:09 PM   #32
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Does Mustang have a ZF??
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Old 11-02-2014, 07:09 PM   #33
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If they have been testing Volvos for some time it suggests that they are really only PR exercise much the same as FG GT.
Senior Police and guys in the garages love cars and any chance to fang in something different is readily taken. Trouble is Cop cars get written off quite regularly and trying to explain to the commissioner that you lost 3 X $75000 Volvos this week means the cheaper just as capable option will always win out.
My neighbour is snr Hwy patrol -- not a PR exercise at all. They like the AWD element of the performance sedans ...easier to explain 3x $75k than 8x $45k and 4x funerals.
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Old 11-02-2014, 07:13 PM   #34
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Does Mustang have a ZF?? ford 6r80 Chinese copy but from all reports can handle more power.
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Old 11-02-2014, 07:13 PM   #35
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Does Mustang have a ZF??
No, Mustang has the 6R80 (basically a ZF built under licence by Ford). Same as the diesel Territory

Never heard of one milkshaking... yet !

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Old 11-02-2014, 07:25 PM   #36
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Volkswagen will be my brand of choice once the last Falcon rolls off the assembly line.
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Old 11-02-2014, 07:56 PM   #37
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Does Mustang have a ZF?? ford 6r80 Chinese copy but from all reports can handle more power.
Since when has Michigan been in China

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Old 11-02-2014, 08:06 PM   #38
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I'll personally either be buying a used/second hand FG 335 GT or Jeep SRT8. Prices should come down nicely by 2017
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Old 11-02-2014, 08:17 PM   #39
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Since when has Michigan been in China
woops it's the mustang manual that's made in china.
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Old 11-02-2014, 08:29 PM   #40
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If i have the means will probably be a BMW 4 series or Audi A5 or something similar.
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Old 11-02-2014, 08:42 PM   #41
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I honestly think that the current HWP cars are inappropriate. Considering how many kms they do, they should all be driving LPG Falcons. They don't actually need that much power - adequate performance would do. How often are they chasing 911s? And if they were, they'd pull out of the chase once they reach 160km/h or so anyway.
Medium sized cars (Ecoboost Mondeos or AWD Libertys) would do perfectly IMO. I think they've just created a culture whereby they get SS or XR6Tees because they WANT them, not because they NEED them.
Personally I'd be happy to see them in F6"s and GTs,, most of the time they may not go full throttle , but if they need to they should have the capability to get there quick.
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Old 11-02-2014, 08:59 PM   #42
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Ford Ranger or 80 series turbo diesel Land Cruiser then keep for life.
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Old 11-02-2014, 09:06 PM   #43
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Bought an FG GT late last year as a long term keeper.

Will plan to buy a new Terry as my daily before they end as a long term option so won't have to worry about "what now" question for a long time I hope.
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Old 11-02-2014, 09:26 PM   #44
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Well one of the reasons I justified buying brand new was that it helped the local industry, with local car making going I will probably buy second hand from then on. A two year old Audi A4 wagon would be nice. But I think il just keep my locally made cars for as long as possible.
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Old 11-02-2014, 09:34 PM   #45
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One of these
http://www.infiniticars.com.au/q50-h.../exterior.html
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FH XR8 for the weekends, 2014 Mondeo or if my budget stretches far enough current model Infiniti Q70 as a daily
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Old 11-02-2014, 09:51 PM   #47
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We have no need of ADRs soon ... I wonder if the government do the sensible thing and adopt euro rules, and whether that will have any impact on price.

At the very least, grey importing should be made a whole lot easier without a local industry to protect.

Imagine being able to buy a car on the net from the other side of the world and having it shipped here.....
And maybe no need for a luxury car tax to protect LTD, Fairlane, Fairmont Ghia, Caprice, Statesman and Calais sales.

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Just sell before 3 years or buy the extended warranty....$5000 for a camshaft replacement
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Old 11-02-2014, 10:00 PM   #50
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And maybe no need for a luxury car tax to protect LTD, Fairlane, Fairmont Ghia, Caprice, Statesman and Calais sales.
All good except you overlook Governments of all types are addicted to revenue like a fat kid to cake and won't readily give up an income stream if they don't have to.

Would be really surprised if they dropped the LCT - afterall it applies to Australian cars as well as the imports so wasn't protecting them at all. If anything protected the lower end cars - both locals and imports - by pricing the 'upmarket' cars that little bit further out of reach.

The only protection given to local cars was import tariffs - and they have been eroded over the years arguably contributing to the situation.
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And maybe no need for a luxury car tax to protect LTD, Fairlane, Fairmont Ghia, Caprice, Statesman and Calais sales.
No, but we have 6 years of debt creation and wasting to pay off...
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Wouldn't have bought a Toyota or a Holden anyway ..... so definately be in a Mustang unless something comes out that grabs my attention but doubt that would happen



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Unsure, looking at either an Alfa Romeo, a Skoda or out of left field a Jeep GC.
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Mazda or Nissan - will prob buy a new car thiis year and I'm over Euro servicing costs and Local build quailty.
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I hang up the stethoscope and turn off the radio in 2018, so I don't see a need to feel nostalgic and run out and buy new just as I retire. I'd say keep the Ranger until I can't climb into it any more, then look at something smaller with a Ford badge to take me out until I get a walking frame (which will have fishing rod holders of course).
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I'll think about that question when the wheels have fallen off my FG shopping trolley... about 2019 so I'll see whats about in Ford land then
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Old 12-02-2014, 12:31 AM   #57
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if i cant get hold of a 2016 terry or falcon id say ill hang onto my current terry for a while.
replacement will probably be a ranger,mustang or terrys replacement. who knows.
im sure ford will have something to tickle my fancy.
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Old 12-02-2014, 12:49 AM   #58
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I don't do a lot of km's, so I expect I'll be keeping my GenF til 2019. A RangeRover Sport is top of my wish list. Will probably be cheaper than a used GT which will probably be selling for $200k ;)
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Old 12-02-2014, 01:17 AM   #59
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Hope the 2015 model XR8 and Mustang that I intend to buy next year will last me till 2020+, after that Ford better have a model with a powerful enough Flux Capacitator to get my *** off the ground.......;)
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My neighbour is snr Hwy patrol -- not a PR exercise at all. They like the AWD element of the performance sedans ...easier to explain 3x $75k than 8x $45k and 4x funerals.
Still a PR exercise like the Porsche and like the FPV and the F6's, HSV's, WRX etc. Manufacturers like to massage there products image every now and then especially if sales are slow so they give Emergency Services etc a good deal on their Hero models and spin a bit of BS about product development, calibrating to local conditions, durabilty testing etc, to get some mutually benficial PR.

Personal opinion is long shifts, distraction, excessive work load, time of day would have more to do with HWP accidents than whether they are driving a Volvo or an Aurion, Commodore, Falcon.
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