Trade in the FG for a Commodore?

[nstg8a]

huh?.

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by stevz

Being a 12/2009 build it still has at least 5 months of warranty, depending on when it was first registered.

And just for reference sake...

http://www.redbook.com.au/cars/resea...&Ridx=2&eapi=2




But somehow you've come to the conclusion that $19k for a 14,500km example is a perfectly realistic price.

A 3 year old V8 VE is worth early 20's not in the 30's

Even though that car needs a bit of money to get it registered (over $1k), potentially delivered for some buyers, plus incidentals, in two separate posts I have said I think it's probably good buying for someone, but like I keep saying, THAT'S IT.


I don't think it warrants people soiling themselves over or pointing the finger saying it must be dodge cause of price (hey, by bidding you may be buying a Nigerian lotto ticket, not a commodore, I am just saying that price alone does not equal criminal)

If anyone wants to pay in the 30's for a car like that (which seems to be what you think it's worth : 2 x 19 = $36k and redbook post above) then good luck, but given you can buy a similarly configured car brand new for about 15% more I sure as **** wouldn't write the finance on it.

Stevz, you should buy it, you should buy and sell cars for a living. You have redbook, you know how to filter carsales down to just a handful of cars. You will make a small fortune (as long as you start with a large one)

To anyone else reading, I put myself through Uni buying and selling cars, trust me, you gotta look at the bigger picture, not just find one or two sellers with the same dream as you.

Wholesale, that is what the car is worth. Don't know about the ebay listing, all I am saying is with the number of V8 VEs around a 3 year old one is worth early 20's not in the 30's

[falconator]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

lol, and hands up whos too stupid to read the whole auction before calling everyone else pork chops...

pot meet kettle.

Dont be hard on the Flappist,i thought the same thing.How many adds have that at the bottom?

[Shonky.]

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...api=2&__N=1246 1247 1252 1282 4294965857 4294965745 1216 246&silo=Stock&Range=Price:Min,Max~0.5|Year:2009,M ax&sort=~Price




I could fill my yard with quality 3 year old Commodores at $20k a pop

(last thing I'd want though)

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by shonkymofo

A 3 year old V8 VE is worth early 20's not in the 30's

Even though that car needs a bit of money to get it registered (over $1k), potentially delivered for some buyers, plus incidentals, in two separate posts I have said I think it's probably good buying for someone, but like I keep saying, THAT'S IT.


I don't think it warrants people soiling themselves over or pointing the finger saying it must be dodge cause of price (hey, by bidding you may be buying a Nigerian lotto ticket, not a commodore, I am just saying that price alone does not equal criminal)

If anyone wants to pay in the 30's for a car like that (which seems to be what you think it's worth : 2 x 19 = $36k and redbook post above) then good luck, but given you can buy a similarly configured car brand new for about 15% more I sure as **** wouldn't write the finance on it.

Stevz, you should buy it, you should buy and sell cars for a living. You have redbook, you know how to filter carsales down to just a handful of cars. You will make a small fortune (as long as you start with a large one)

To anyone else reading, I put myself through Uni buying and selling cars, trust me, you gotta look at the bigger picture, not just find one or two sellers with the same dream as you.

Wholesale, that is what the car is worth. Don't know about the ebay listing, all I am saying is with the number of V8 VEs around a 3 year old one is worth early 20's not in the 30's

It's more a case of doing due diligence and doing all the usual checks for financial encumbrance,
that the vehicle hasn't been written off and repaired, not stolen, not subjected to a de-register notice.
If all of that checks out and the car mechanically appears fine, then I'd say go for it.

I don't think anyone is suggesting buying the car sight unseen without checks,
so it's right to be a little suspicious/cautious until it checks out...

[Shonky.]

Yeah, agreed. I'm just saying I think it is worth early 20's, not mid 30's like some seem to believe

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by shonkymofo

Yeah, agreed. I'm just saying I think it is worth early 20's, not mid 30's like some seem to believe

Just trying to get my head around the sheer volume of VE SS Commodores built since 2006...
There must be tens of thousands of them to pick from...

[Brazen]

Originally Posted by shonkymofo

Yeah, agreed. I'm just saying I think it is worth early 20's, not mid 30's like some seem to believe

Nah, if legit, it's worth low 30s

[lucas2]

If it looks to good to be true, it probably is.
Also 2x19 = 38

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by Brazen

Nah, if legit, it's worth low 30s

This..

Can't go off what a wholesale price may or may not be, because most of us don't have the ability to get goods at that price.

[prydey]

2x19 = 36

[trendkill555666]

first thing to look at is "reserve not met", bidding might start at 15 but you might not get it for less than 35

[prydey]

Originally Posted by trendkill555666

first thing to look at is "reserve not met", bidding might start at 15 but you might not get it for less than 35

1. did you read the actual body of the ad?

2. did you read this thread?

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by prydey

2x19 = 36

ha ha, fail

I guess what you have highlighted (in addition to me belonging in remedial mathematics) is that the twice as much (as the $19k reserve) statement is well off mark, given that for $38k with a bit of research and skill you could get a brand new SS instead of a 3 year old SSV (they are routinely advertised at 39.9k driveaway)

I'm seriously just trying to educate you guys on how to get more car for your buck. Treat carsales list prices as a suggested starting price, not what you should pay (especially for something as homogenous as a V8 Commodore, with literally 1000's of them for sale)

I don't have access to wholesale sources either, but I know I get wholesale prices, something anyone can do if they understand the game they are playing.

I am not trying to sell anyone a car. Have nothing to gain

[stevz]

Originally Posted by shonkymofo

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...api=2&__N=1246 1247 1252 1282 4294965857 4294965745 1216 246&silo=Stock&Range=Price:Min,Max~0.5|Year:2009,M ax&sort=~Price




I could fill my yard with quality 3 year old Commodores at $20k a pop

(last thing I'd want though)

I think I might go outside and talk to the brick wall. I will probably have more success in getting through to it.

The examples you keep putting up are NOT comparable to the car in question.

You ridicule me for putting up Redbook data etc, but what evidence have you got to support your flawed argument? NONE.

A VE SS is NOT comparable to an SSV. Compare apples to apples.

That would be like saying a G6ET is worth the same as an XR6T etc
Or a GTE is worth no more than a GS...

And you keep dodging the fact that this car has only 14,500km. Can you honestly sit there and say that a car with 14,500km is worth no more than one with 50,000/100,000?

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by stevz

A VE SS is NOT comparable to an SSV

I know you are a Commodore fanboy from other threads, but are you serious?

Originally Posted by stevz

That would be like saying a G6ET is worth the same as an XR6T

They are not the same, but they are comparable. Hands up if anyone has bought a G6ET, but first considered an XR6T? or vice verssa. The potential buyers of each are often the same people, therefore the price of one is very relevant to the value of the other one.

open your mind

Originally Posted by stevz

Can you honestly sit there and say that a car with 14,500km is worth no more than one with 50,000/100,000?

No I can't, but I think the difference is closer to $0 than the $10k your argument relies upon.

You don't seem too mild manered on here, so unless you are just a keyboard warrior I would suggest in the real world you push a bit harder when it comes to negotiation.

Always question, always find a different angle, but always be polite and you would be amazed at the prices you can get in saturated markets

[XDV800]

Allow me to put this scam argument to bed

Originally Posted by Dezaman


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Holden-Co...item43b15489e6

Compare this link...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-Du...item35bdeb3d20

Solved

[Ryan]

I was looking at getting a VE, but opted for a VZ instead. I was going to get a 06 Calais, but I've heard the series 1 VEs have a lot of teething problems.

Series IIs seem to be the go. I personally wouldn't buy a 3 year old car with so few Ks.

[last fairlane]

Did anyone read the ad all the way to the bottom
at the top it says reserve not met $19600 30 odd bids
but at the very bottom it says but it now $19000
so what gives
also it looks like it was pulled before the end date
could be wrong who knows
thanks John

[prydey]

john, did you read through this whole thread?

its clearly a scam.

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by yzfr101

Allow me to put this scam argument to bed


Compare this link...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-Du...item35bdeb3d20

Solved

Originally Posted by mik

very true, a cruise around Melbourne and much of the line marking is worn out and sometimes merging with other old lines they have`nt bothered to blast off.

Good find.


Lol dunno how that second quote got in there.

[stevz]

Originally Posted by yzfr101

Allow me to put this scam argument to bed


Compare this link...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-Du...item35bdeb3d20

Solved

That listing looks like it was done by the same person as the SSV, just with a different email address.

Before bidding email me directly at xxxxxxx at hotmail dot com
The buy it now price is $xx,000
No reserve

That's exactly what the SSV listing had...

I recall reading somewhere that scammers are now hacking into legitimate people's ebay accounts, then using them to list fraudulent auctions.
This would probably explain why the sellers have positive feedback and appear to be legitimate.

If you see anything like this again in future steer clear and immediately report it to ebay.

[XR6T0Y]

Commonwhores are just that, too common. Treat yourself a little I say

[RASER]

The SS has the worlds best mass produced V8, and very easy to get bits and pieces for it.....if thats the way u want to go.

Holdens are the KING of bogans though

Rather a stealth V8 Calais than a SS

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by RASER

The SS has the worlds best mass produced V8, and very easy to get bits and pieces for it.....if thats the way u want to go.

Holdens are the KING of bogans though

Rather a stealth V8 Calais than a SS

The worlds best mass produced V8 is clearly the 5 litre Coyote, it eclipse's the LS engine for power with a significantly lower capacity.

[BaraFGXR6]

if they are modded tastefully, they dont actually look that bad....

/equip riot shield.

[xisled]

Ok guys so I sent an email and got this reply.

Send email
Find email Add to contacts To andrew ********
From: Erica Stroup (ericastroup@hotmail.com)
Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 10:55:25 AM
To: andrew ******* (******@hotmail.com)


Hello there and thanks for your interest,
The car is in perfect working condition. It has no scratches on and hasn't been involved in an accident, no rust.
The motor runs very well. The car was always garaged and never been smoked in. The interior is very clean.
Also I want you to know that the car is fully paid off, it's not under leasing or bank liabilities.
I decided to sell the car at this price AU $19,000 because I just finished the divorce with my husband and I need the money urgently.
I hope to find a buyer as soon as possible. I attached some pics for you.
Where are you located? because I have listed the car on many web sites so I can sell it asap.
If you have any further question please do not hesitate to ask in order to make this a successful deal.
Best Regards
----- Original Message -----
From: andrew ********
To: ericastroup@hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 12:21 PM


Hi I am just wondering about the car on ebay.


Can I get more info please.


Now in my original email I said that I seen the car on ebay. The person asks where I seen the add. They also say will sell the car for AU $19000. Why would someone put that in a reply. They also call it bank liabilities we do not use this wording in Australia.

I think SCAMMMMMMMMM!!!!

Will reply and see what I get.

[jpd80]

I saw a 6 month old $57K Clubsport quick saled in a divorce settlement for $32K, it nearly killed the owner to watch his ex do it...

[trendkill555666]

Originally Posted by prydey

1. did you read the actual body of the ad?

2. did you read this thread?

1. Sorry, no, I did not read the body of the ad, just seen "reserve not met". If you put a "buy it now" option on your ebay ad but someone bids on it (NOT "buy it now") then it removes that option. As far as I recall but I'm sure you will prove me wrong.

2. Yes I read the thread, people having differences of opinions on what a secondhand SS or SSV is actually worth and the true meaning of "half".

[xisled]

OK got a second email and I can confirm it is a scam.


Send email
Find email Add to contactsTo andrew ****
From: Erica Stroup (ericastroup@hotmail.com)
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 7:23:58 AM
To: andrew ****** (********@hotmail.com)


Hello again.
I would like to thank you for your interest in buying my car and also to clearly some things first of all.
I would be glad to meet with you but my job is not offering me this chance..Because of my job I am traveling a lot and I can not return home and expect to meet potential client. That is why I've choose the Internet way to sell it.
Right now I am located in Darwin NT. I would like to know from the beginning if you are really interested in purchase, so i can stop negotiating with potential buyers.
My final price is AU $19,000 with shipping/handling included to your address (only in Australia) and it is not negotiable because the car is perfect condition. The transaction will be processed through eBay as I had the car listed on their site for a while and they provide the most reliable and secure services in which concerns the on line sales.
You will pay eBay the required amount, and they will secure it until you get the car. You will be given a 5 days inspection period during so you can make sure that it is the car that you saw in the pictures. The final decision to buy or not the car will be after the 5 days with the car at your home.
If you find the car unsatisfactory at the end of the 5 days inspection period, you have the option to return it to me at my expense and get a refund from eBay in 24 hours after they are notified about your decision.
If you are satisfied with it, you will confirm that to eBay so that they can unblock the funds and send it to me and the transaction will be completed.
So if you agree with what i stated above and you have the funds, i am ready to explain to you all the details regarding the payment method, the shipping process and the paperwork.
Looking forward to hearing from you!