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06-10-2012, 11:16 AM | #61 | |||
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So you would like a left hand drive non ADR compliant car that cannot be registered or insured and has no parts, service or warranty? |
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06-10-2012, 11:17 AM | #62 | |||
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06-10-2012, 12:48 PM | #63 | |||
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06-10-2012, 01:30 PM | #64 | |||
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06-10-2012, 03:39 PM | #65 | |||
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Do a bit of research into the Australian and US car industries and legal requirements. These are not iPhones or playstations. |
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06-10-2012, 04:17 PM | #66 | ||
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I know a left hand to right hand drive conversion can cost $20,000, but surly the Australian bound Volts would be built right hand drive straight away with no need for a 'conversion'. Surely it doesn't cost them $30,000 to get it to pass the other aspects of ADR.
I don't know maybe it does. But I would love to see the price breakdown for cars like the Volt to see where all the money is going. |
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06-10-2012, 05:39 PM | #67 | |||
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06-10-2012, 06:05 PM | #68 | ||
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they are becoming viable . i think the problem is how are the govts going to create revenue ? saving money to the consumer is of no benifit to resourcefull busnisses .
if they can get around economic factors which they will , then electric cars will be the norm in the3 very short future , just as propellar driven planes are becoming a thing of yesteryear so will the combustion engine . look at the world of radio control for example , 20 years ago we all had nitro 2 cycle and 4 cycle engines and loved them , the price was reducing from around $300 for an ITALIAN made ROSSI 0.46 cu 2 stroke engine . TO $99 for a chinese one . the equivilant in electric brushless AC motors now . $15 and it will out perform any nitro version in torque and rpm with a perfect tune throughout the rev range ( no sweet spot) nicad batteries have been replaced with liquid polymere batteries , which dont need cycling and can produce hi current over a long term for less weight than previous batteries . i scientist has told me , science is already experimenting with 3 generations of batteries after lipo polymer ones we buy now . that means the next batteries are already developed , then the next ones and the ones after that are currently under development , lipo batteries are already lightyears ahead of NI CAD BATTERIES , ATHAT WERE USED AND NONJ VIABLE FOR ELECTRIC RC MOTORS JUST 10 YEARS AGO . I hope this isnt seen as off topic , as i'm trying to show some relationship to the auto industry , look at the 1940s compared to now , my prediction is in about 30 years internal combustion will be museum stuff . elctric cars and componants will be pruduced very cheaply , and will all be plug n play . my guess is tolls will rise exponentially for usage revenue , or purchase premiums will be charged at purchase creating revenue . it will be better than it is now , but as we look at an old mosquito(plane ) flying in the air today , it will be just a memory with once obtained WOW factor that is ancient from another error . i have a friend who is driving around in his home made electric car , it has a washing machine motor in it and 50kgs of lipo batteries . |
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06-10-2012, 06:21 PM | #69 | |||
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There is some other workers heaps of mexicans and others willing to work that would not get that much of a wage who are paid cash but even than i think it would be at least $100 per day or something. Other than NY its pretty cheap to live in the states too $7 there is prob equivalent to at least $15 here in buying power.
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06-10-2012, 06:38 PM | #70 | |||
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07-10-2012, 11:29 AM | #71 | ||
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No it makes very little sense really, there is no good reason for the price hike and its silly and short-sighted of Holden to do it along with its stupid complicated warranty.
If they gave it a good price max $40k for a base model along with long hyundai style warranty to allay ppls fears about it they would fly out the door.
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07-10-2012, 02:20 PM | #72 | |||
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It is an absolute no brainer, without a shadow of a doubt, that electricity will be the dominant energy source for private transportation in the very near future. Its in everyones best interest to eliminate our reliance on OPEC controlled oil. The technology is moving fast now, and it will only improve exponentially. And dont just think better batteries, maybe hydrogen fuel cells will eventually get sorted. Who knows. I remember reading about one company who had developed a special type of bituman that collected the heat energy created by cars and trucks driving along it, stored it, and fed it back to the same cars and trucks driving along it. Who knows what the future holds, except to say it definitely wont be internal combustion engines, at least not in any great numbers. These electric cars we're seeing now are the automotive equivilant to those first mobile phones that were the size of a suitcase. |
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08-10-2012, 12:38 AM | #73 | ||
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I'm starting to see the big appeal for electric cars, especially once they start becoming mainstream.
Skaife seems positive... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liQgFjmApAU |
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08-10-2012, 11:43 AM | #74 | ||
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Before you go throwing your hard earned at Elec cars...........
http://www.skynews.com.au/tech/article.aspx?id=803263
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30-10-2012, 11:47 PM | #75 | ||
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31-10-2012, 01:04 AM | #76 | |||
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personally i think it will take longer and the hybrid will take the lead, unless as you say the super battery becomes available, and electricity does`nt become too expensive(recently we had our 1st ever 500+ $ electricity bill ) imagine adding car recharge to that on a daily basis and we have`nt hit summer yet with the air con running, speaking of opec and oil supplies, well perhaps we should also look at raw materials for car batteries in the future, in 2011 it`s estimated we surpassed one billion cars on the planet, what are the resources for the batteries? they maybe scarcer than petroleum . |
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