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11-07-2012, 05:35 PM | #91 | ||
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An example the other way... Chrysler takes on HSV and FPV......
American performance hero monsters local pair with 347kW of power and more equipment for less money. |
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11-07-2012, 06:32 PM | #92 | |||
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V8's cost way more to register (in a lot of places), more to run, more to service, more to buy. People would love to be able to get the style, but people generally don't care what's under the bonnet in any great detail nowadays. |
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11-07-2012, 07:54 PM | #93 | |||
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Still can't see why you'd want the I6T from the Falcon |
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11-07-2012, 10:23 PM | #94 | |||
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Meaning cheaper cars... Am I imagining something that'll never happen? |
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12-07-2012, 01:08 AM | #95 | |||
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Current model 300 interior: http://0.tqn.com/d/cars/1/0/D/R/2/ag_11300_intlt.JPG Yeah, a Camry interior is soooo much better! |
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12-07-2012, 06:56 AM | #97 | |||
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New Edge was Telnack's last hurrah. The original Taurus, which was an international styling sensation, was introduced under his watch. Telnack was the guy responsible for the aero look craze of the '80s. Ford's first aero car was the Tempo. The styling looked much better on Thunderbirds, though. Anyway, if you think Telnack was a hack, I must remind you that he started his Ford career in Australia. In fact, he styled the 427 Falcon two-door show car (built from an American '66–'67 Falcon Futura coupe) that debuted at the 1969 Melbourne Motor Show. It introduced the Shaker hood and the Super Roo logo. It's a small world, after all.
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12-07-2012, 09:37 AM | #100 | |||
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that's why American car makers build their large sedan as an imposing "block of flats". See, that's the difference with our Falcon and Commodore, they're big on the inside but much more compact on external dimensions compared to say, the 300 or even Taurus. It's also why a lot of American consumers are quick to mislabel our large cars as mid sizers... So when we talk to our American cousins about a large or full size sedan, we need to think Fairlane/Caprice not Falcon/Commodore which are actually like "fence sitters" Last edited by jpd80; 12-07-2012 at 09:44 AM. |
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12-07-2012, 09:47 AM | #101 | ||
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I never liked the first generation of the 300 (the one from this millennium). It looked like they took a proper large car and blunted the front and rear ends with a hot iron.
I think they've improved the rear with the refreshed version, but the front is still too blunt and the grille now reminds me of a Hyundai (I can't remember if it's the Genesis or Equus). Chrysler made such a bold move with both the 300 and Charger because they're a desperate niche player in the US. Ford still sells enough volume to play it safer with styling (witness the incredibly bland Five Hundred that has now morphed into the aggressive-looking Taurus). Of course Ford has bet the company on daring designs before—the original Taurus is the most recent example, but the '49 Ford was nearly as revolutionary (and the V8 and Model A prior to that). Chrysler has notoriously cheap interiors. They've actually improved vastly since they were given to Fiat. Sergio approved something like an additional $11 per car for the interior. Daimler officials couldn't believe that Chrysler could actually produce interiors as cheaply as they did—they thought the dollar value was a typographical error. US GM and Ford interiors are marginally better than Chrysler interiors. Trucks actually tend to have nice interiors these days. Personally, I don't mind the plastic—I'd rather spend my money on the engine and suspension. The Mustang interior is as nice as it has ever been, but Ford (and even magazine reviews) bragged about ehe 2005 interior, yet it was clearly much cheaper (hard, hollow plastic) than the interior of my '95. The EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) actually classes cars based on interior volume, not exterior dimensions. That's why a Mustang is considered a subcompact. But with the death of the Panther platform, there isn't really a traditional full-sized car still in the US market (even though the Panthers didn't really have that much interior room).
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Jay Mays took over from Telnac and tried to even out look, |
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12-07-2012, 06:19 PM | #105 | ||
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My opinion on "New Edge" was it didnt really work on larger cars. Its use on smaller cars such as the Focus, Ka, Cougar and Puma was quite resolved and suited the target audience for these vehicles. New Edge on larger cars didnt suit the more mature and conservative nature of the people that would buy a Falcon or Tauris.
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Ford's nth American and European styling has changed so much over the past decade it a wonder anyone can keep up.. |
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