|
Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated. |
|
The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
10-07-2014, 10:42 AM | #91 | ||
Trev
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Was Perth, now country Vic
Posts: 8,017
|
I must admit the white is much less pukeworthy than other colours :-)
__________________
Trev (FPV FG II GT-E thus the fully loaded burger with the lot as standard +Alpine/Dynamat fitout - 2 of only 4 ever made GT-E factory 9" rear rims - Michelin Pilot Supersports - Shockworks Suspension) |
||
This user likes this post: |
10-07-2014, 10:45 AM | #92 | ||
Banned
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,290
|
And the excuses begin the gts is faster around a track tops for them the 3 ppl who go there will be happy for everybody else there's power and drags at traffic lights I'd put money on the gtf every time
|
||
10-07-2014, 10:49 AM | #93 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Perth
Posts: 1,794
|
Quote:
__________________
Current Rides: 2017 Ford Mustang 2020 Ford Everest Sport Past Rides: 2017 Kia Stinger GT 2008 FG XR6 Sedan 2008 FG G6E Sedan 2004 BA XR8 Sedan 2008 BF XR6 Turbo Sedan 2004 BA XR8 Sedan 2003 BA XR8 Ute 2003 BA XR6 Sedan |
|||
10-07-2014, 11:18 AM | #94 | ||
Starter Motor
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 22
|
That's a silly place to be putting your money, given it's quite obvious even with less power the GTS is quicker in a straight line. Haven't you seen the drive video? Yeah sure, auto vs manual but I doubt even with an auto the GTF would claw back a whole second.
|
||
10-07-2014, 11:27 AM | #95 | ||
Rob
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodcroft S.A.
Posts: 21,764
|
|
||
10-07-2014, 11:28 AM | #96 | ||
IWCMOGTVM Club Supporter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern Suburbs Melbourne
Posts: 17,799
|
Then it would be putting out the same max power (shown on the GTF) for more then the 20sec over boost gives it now. The power isn't the drama it needs sticky tyres to get that power down.
__________________
Daniel |
||
10-07-2014, 11:46 AM | #97 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NorthWest, Sydney
Posts: 2,132
|
What drag race? Is this a rematch race?
__________________
GTF Smoke with Black stripes. |
||
10-07-2014, 12:07 PM | #98 | ||
Banned
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ipswich QLD
Posts: 4,697
|
Still people going on about overall packages, wheel sizes, track work and prices
This is about Australia's most powerfull muscle car, which Holden and wheels have been liberal sprouting about. But it's NOT. Independant factory "supervised" dynos have confirmed the GTF is more powerfull then the GTS. And they did NINE runs to check and double check.....vs the 4 for the hsv. (So heat soak/transient over boost topic means little here) |
||
10-07-2014, 12:19 PM | #99 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 571
|
With a decent set of tyers on the back. The GTF will claw that 1 second back, easy.
|
||
10-07-2014, 12:22 PM | #100 | ||
The 'Stihl' Man
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,591
|
Dont know about 1 second but certainly would help not having the rubber it does. The GTS runs something pretty fancy I believe.
__________________
|
||
10-07-2014, 12:31 PM | #101 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 307
|
ford could of used better tyres on the gtf but they didn't so its not even worth using that as as excuse anymore.
|
||
10-07-2014, 12:36 PM | #102 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 4,819
|
Quote:
Why would wheel diameter make a difference to rwkw? Wheel and tyre weight would. Overall rolling diameter of the wheel and tyre would. But 20 inch wheels result in different power output than 19 inch wheels is a very definitive statement. I'd love to know the physics behind this phenomena. Which tuners say that? Last edited by Shonky.; 10-07-2014 at 12:43 PM. |
|||
2 users like this post: |
10-07-2014, 12:44 PM | #103 | ||
Long live the GT !
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Perth WA
Posts: 1,863
|
Let's see what happens when GT-F owners start running their cars at their local dyno's... my bet is they will all make over 330rwkw.
__________________
2018 Ford Mustang GT - Oxford White | Auto | Herrod Tune | K&N Filter | StreetFighter Oil Separators | H&R Springs | Whiteline Vertical Links | Ceramic Protection | Tint "Whatya think of me car, XR Falcon, 351 Blown Cleveland running Motec injection and runnin' on methanol... goes pretty hard too, got heaps of torque for chucking burnouts, IT'S UNREAL !!" - Poida
|
||
3 users like this post: |
10-07-2014, 12:54 PM | #104 | ||
The 'Stihl' Man
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,591
|
They didnt because they didnt have the cash....also its actually quite nice to have a car that doesnt need $500+ per corner for replacements. Its a four door sedan not an exotic.
__________________
|
||
10-07-2014, 01:19 PM | #105 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Auckland NZ
Posts: 954
|
Will post it here as soon as we find out
__________________
Current Rides: XA GT Manual XBGT Manual XC GXL 1982 XE S-Pac V8 2011 F6 Velvet 2011 GT Manual Black/Gold 2020 GT500KR FG-X Sprint F150 Shelby |
||
10-07-2014, 01:50 PM | #106 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Melb north
Posts: 12,025
|
Quote:
|
|||
10-07-2014, 02:06 PM | #107 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,224
|
On the tyre thing... i always thought larger wheels/tyres read a touch lower on the dyno? can't remember where i had seen it.
I know for a fact that larger tyres affect fuel economy and power... Our triton with 33s is testament to that haha |
||
10-07-2014, 02:17 PM | #108 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NorthWest, Sydney
Posts: 2,132
|
So if Holden/HSV choose to fit a 20" wheel and tyre to there VF GTS and this produces less rear wheel kilowatts is this Fords/FPV problem?
__________________
GTF Smoke with Black stripes. |
||
10-07-2014, 02:22 PM | #109 | ||
Starter Motor
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 22
|
|
||
10-07-2014, 02:30 PM | #110 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NorthWest, Sydney
Posts: 2,132
|
Quote:
lets all focus on the facts and not on the what's ifs.
__________________
GTF Smoke with Black stripes. |
|||
This user likes this post: |
10-07-2014, 02:33 PM | #111 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NorthWest, Sydney
Posts: 2,132
|
Fact: The GTF produces more power at the rear wheels than the GTS.
__________________
GTF Smoke with Black stripes. |
||
10-07-2014, 02:34 PM | #112 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,381
|
I'm a bit confused (easily done...). Was the dyno result of 330rwkw for the Ford achieved during temporary "overboost" - or is this the normal output than can be expected at all times ??
|
||
10-07-2014, 02:46 PM | #113 | |||
Long live the GT !
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Perth WA
Posts: 1,863
|
Quote:
348rwkw add 18% driveline loss equals over 420 flywheel killerwatts !!
__________________
2018 Ford Mustang GT - Oxford White | Auto | Herrod Tune | K&N Filter | StreetFighter Oil Separators | H&R Springs | Whiteline Vertical Links | Ceramic Protection | Tint "Whatya think of me car, XR Falcon, 351 Blown Cleveland running Motec injection and runnin' on methanol... goes pretty hard too, got heaps of torque for chucking burnouts, IT'S UNREAL !!" - Poida
|
|||
2 users like this post: |
10-07-2014, 03:04 PM | #114 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 307
|
|
||
10-07-2014, 03:06 PM | #115 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,011
|
I find it funny how these cars apparently need to be tested in the "real world" i.e. at a track. IMO most of these cars will probably never see a circuit. The "real world", for most people, probably involves a bunch of crap talking and appendage measuring with their mates about who's has more power on paper, and who's is quickest from a squirt at the traffic lights.
|
||
10-07-2014, 03:09 PM | #116 | ||
R51 Pathy, 91 Jayco Swan
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Mackay, QLD
Posts: 3,635
|
|
||
10-07-2014, 03:15 PM | #117 | ||
Not of the Sooty variety!
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: On a Shrinking Planet
Posts: 1,817
|
What I like is that for years the GT's, F6's (and T-Series) have been "seen" as the underdog, with less power and/or inability to lay it down (in the media anyway). Yet that, in the "real world", for the most part has meant squat. I'd confidently sit in any current FPV GT, GTF or F6, line up with the comparable HSV and happy flip the middle finger as the FPV leaves them behind. Maybe in autos as I’m getting soft. ;)
But who cares about stock figures anyway! Any white GT-F's left anywhere? I've a SCT tuner sitting here I need to use.
__________________
"To be afraid is to be alive - to act against that fear is to be a person of courage." Current
The Toy: 2002 AUIII TS50 The Daily and Tow Vehicle: 2016 VW Amarok |
||
4 users like this post: |
10-07-2014, 03:23 PM | #118 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 540
|
Quote:
|
|||
10-07-2014, 03:24 PM | #119 | |||
Banned
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,801
|
Quote:
|
|||
10-07-2014, 03:25 PM | #120 | ||
Call me 'Al'
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: On a flattened-out cardboard box out the back behind the wheelie bins.
Posts: 940
|
Unfortunately 15x7s don't fit over the brakes on these...
|
||