FPV Facebook teaser? - Page 6

**Dave R** · 18-02-2013, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

With a new GT due out in 12 months do people seriously expect Ford to have made changes to the GT, at this 'late' stage? Seriously?

Yes. There is no new GT due in 12 months. 18-20 months, perhaps, but not 12. Also consider that HSV is launching its F series range which is going to hurt FPV considerably, even moreso because their product hasn't changed in looks since 2008- with VF's debut this was the perfect time to refresh the face of the GT and it doesn't cost much to tweak a front bar - it's going to cost them much more in lost sales.

Sinead Phipps · 18-02-2013, 05:56 PM

Hey folks, I'm not sure where the confusion has come from around what we promised to showcase today as here's exactly what we said on the Ford Performance Vehicles Facebook page: Something special has just come out of the paint shop and is coming together at Broadmeadows in our new performance vehicle assembly area. It’s not a new model but still a very special car. Do you know what it might be?

We pretty clearly said it's not a new model - but it IS still a very special car.

Today was about showcasing the new facilities we've invested in at Broadmeadows (and Geelong but more on that to come later this year) in order to bring FPV production in-house. We had two choices last year when Prodrive indicated they didn't want to proceed with the joint venture anymore - we could let FPV go away entirely or we could take it all on ourselves. We chose to take it on ourselves because we think the vehicles and the brand deserve it.

Since that time, quite a number of people have worked very hard to install the new dedicated FPV facilities within our plants. Some of our most dedicated technicians have been chosen to work on the cars.

Similar to last year, we could have chosen to approach today in one of two ways:

1) do an internal event only - and deal with the resulting furore for not marking the occasion appropriately; or
2) get people together to celebrate

We chose option 2 and have seen some very positive media coverage as a result.

We're very pleased by the results of today, both as a thank you for our team members who've worked so hard to make it a reality, and also that we were able to share the occasion with some of our most dedicated Forums and Facebook fans. We've produced a video to mark the occasion as well, which you can find here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUFqRq9v72E&feature=youtu.be

Hope this explains what our thinking was (whether or not you still agree or disagree) and you all enjoy the video.

P6LTD351 · 18-02-2013, 06:15 PM

Thanks for that Sinead

**Professor Farnsworth** · 18-02-2013, 06:18 PM

yes fair enough thanks for the post

it was unclear whether 'it's not a new model' was being said in a sly way to insinuate that the coupe/HO/whatever else people were hoping for had existed before so technically it wasn't new. But taking it the way you meant it, people may have been hoping for a GT with a bit more kit.

thanks for posting anyway

4vdean · 18-02-2013, 06:20 PM

There is something new, I think the side stripes are different, I like the new one more than the old, (that's if they are actually different and ford Photoshop hasn't morphed it somehow), i think the front section of stripe is thicker and the top of stripe is level instead of kicking up towards the back, subtle change but it really works in my opinion......new stripe left pic off fpv site, old stripe right pic, (some might say new sticker pack

) all in all good publicity, we always whinge about no publicity so we should celebrate......................

4vdean · 18-02-2013, 06:51 PM

Also good to note that Ford PR are monitoring ford forums, we should be on our best behavior, at least respectful with constructive criticism or positive with generous praise, just a thought..........

**Dave R** · 18-02-2013, 08:06 PM

Ford spokesperson speaks and the world stops spinning. Point still stands, the range is begging for a refresh, it's the sixth year they've looked this way- they really could have used this opportunity for more than a PR stunt because that's exactly what it is- FPV folded up and lots of jobs were lost, people have forgotten about that- well played.

Auslandau · 18-02-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline

Ford spokesperson speaks and the world stops spinning. Point still stands, the range is begging for a refresh, it's the sixth year they've looked this way- they really could have used this opportunity for more than a PR stunt because that's exactly what it is- FPV folded up and lots of jobs were lost, people have forgotten about that- well played.

No.... its about having some respect for the way some talk to other members and sharing opinions rather than stating their opinion as fact and that is whether it is directed to someone from Ford or a general member.

Whether Ford could have taken this opportunity to change something on the FPV, especially when they have reeled the clock back to Number 1 or not is totally worthy of conversation but the way some just keep punching FPV in the face with every move they make is astonishing.

Since I have had my GT335 (2011) it already has had 1 update (FG11) & RSpec has been released. Really ..... true story!

Herrod Motorsport · 18-02-2013, 08:36 PM

Well I was there today and thought the whole launch was fantastic . We still have FPV and yes you may say the cars are still the same and they are . But the whole point is we still have FPV . Thank you ford for saving the brand . There is a new excitement at ford that I have not felt for a long time . I think bringing the FPV brand back to the main factory can only be a god thing . I have also been invited to see the new engine plant in Geelong and I have had a good talk to a few of the guys who are building the engines and again I can see the passion and excitement from ford employees that I believe is needed
Well done ford

Nikked · 18-02-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline

Ford spokesperson speaks and the world stops spinning. Point still stands, the range is begging for a refresh, it's the sixth year they've looked this way- they really could have used this opportunity for more than a PR stunt because that's exactly what it is- FPV folded up and lots of jobs were lost, people have forgotten about that- well played.

And thats all it was ment to be, PR stunt or exposure...

Ford have done what many hear have complained about...market the product.

Let the updates/power increase happen after HSV releases there VF products.

**Dave R** · 18-02-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Auslandau

No.... its about having some respect for the way some talk to other members and sharing opinions rather than stating their opinion as fact and that is whether it is directed to someone from Ford or a general member.

Whether Ford could have taken this opportunity to change something on the FPV, especially when they have reeled the clock back to Number 1 or not is totally worthy of conversation but the way some just keep punching FPV in the face with every move they make is astonishing.

Since I have had my GT335 (2011) it already has had 1 update (FG11) & RSpec has been released. Really ..... true story!

I completely agree with the first two points and some of the usual suspects don't even seem to buy new Fords yet they have the loudest voices, that's what I find ironic.

But on the topic of true stories, all of those 'updates' have exactly the same body, some with more stickers than others. FGII was a donor car update and the R Spec was a special edition rather than an update. The car on sale in 2008 (revealed in leaked images in early 2007) looks exactly the same as the car they are trying to sell in 2013, not taking this excellent opportunity to at least tweak the front bar is what astonishes me.

Auslandau · 18-02-2013, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline

But on the topic of true stories, all of those 'updates' have exactly the same body, some with more stickers than others. FGII was a donor car update and the R Spec was a special edition rather than an update. The car on sale in 2008 (revealed in leaked images in early 2007) looks exactly the same as the car they are trying to sell in 2013, not taking this excellent opportunity to at least tweak the front bar is what astonishes me.

...... and that's why it could make a conversation

FTE · 18-02-2013, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline

all of those 'updates' have exactly the same body, some with more stickers than others. FGII was a donor car update and the R Spec was a special edition rather than an update. The car on sale in 2008 (revealed in leaked images in early 2007) looks exactly the same as the car they are trying to sell in 2013, not taking this excellent opportunity to at least tweak the front bar is what astonishes me.

Be thankful FPV are still alive. Imagine the discussion if they were gone! no more F6 or GT to complain about....

As a positive at least the FG isn't as old as VE (2006). Holden are in series 2 and HSV in series 3 guise but they are still based on the same 2006 car that rolled off the assembly line 7 years ago this year. It's a wonder they still sell any at all.

4.0i_SiX · 18-02-2013, 08:55 PM

They should have deleted the raccoon eyes. That would be enough of a change to bring a little freshness until the "fu" arrives

Bossxr8 · 18-02-2013, 08:56 PM

Good to see a few of the guys I know from the plant in the video. Ryan was a good choice to head up the V8 assembly line, he's a good bloke and will do a great job. There are a few other blokes who will work on the V8 line who are passionate Ford people who take real pride in their work.

**Dave R** · 18-02-2013, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Auslandau

...... and that's why it could make a conversation

Right up until you're labelled anti-Ford for suggesting they're not doing something right by the ones that tend to support the blue oval with their keyboards and not their wallets.

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Originally Posted by FTE

As a positive at least the FG isn't as old as VE (2006). Holden are in series 2 and HSV in series 3 guise but they are still based on the same 2006 car that rolled off the assembly line 7 years ago this year. It's a wonder they still sell any at all.

Precisely, because they don't look identical to the one that debuted in 2006, even if they did get 13 year olds to design the updates.

Auslandau · 18-02-2013, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline

Right up until you're labelled anti-Ford for suggesting they're not doing something right by the ones that tend to support the blue oval with their keyboards and not their wallets.

It is how the discussion is written depends on which way the thread goes. Unfortunately there is a few that just cannot bear to say anything positive or discuss constructively ...... Just saying "Ford is Crap" continuously with no substance behind it offends too many here that deserve a bit of respect ...... as after all it is a Forum about Fords for Ford enthusiasts.

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline

Precisely, because they don't look identical to the one that debuted in 2006, even if they did get 13 year olds to design the updates.

Series 1 & 2 (HSV) did look similar ..... 3 was a total Cluster **** in my eyes. Just badges and vents over indulgence. Each to their own but I love the Raccoon Eyes. One thing I will never change on mine. Differentiates between the other models and is a stand out for the FPV range. An easy fix if not liked along with the stripes ..... which is one thing that they could have had a fiddle with for today's occasion. But then couldn't stand the "Why isn't it 400kw;s and just a sticker job ..... " etc

FTE · 18-02-2013, 09:25 PM

My point about HSV E series being 7 years old regardless of series upgrades was to outline FPV are young in comparison, so in my eyes FPV are relatively fresh when compared to the local alternative.

GTP534 · 18-02-2013, 09:32 PM

Personally I think it's great Ford has done this even if the cars are the same. Pity it didn't get on the prime time news like VF did; it is significant that the "GT" has rolled out of Broadmeadows.

Any publicity is good publicity!

Kayos · 18-02-2013, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

Yep, agree there.

Has me bamboozled as to why, as demonstrated by Kayos even Ford fans don't rate it.

Mate you got me all wrong, I didn't say I didn't rate it!!!!! last thing you want to do is put words in my mouth about Ford or the latest FPV 335's, I would say that the last Rspec decal combos (u.s inspired) aren't my cup of tea and I just want more to put euro/hsv trash to the corner weeping

Kayos · 18-02-2013, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ESP

They already did.
They released a supercharged V8 capable of smashing everything in its sights. A daily driver with 330 odd rwkw capable of 12 second passes on street rubber. Re released with R spec so it handles like it should.
I wonder how many on here have been in one or driven one?????

With all of fords issues at the moment.....one could hardly expect that they'd be investing in and building a coup that maybe 100 people would buy......lol

Probably releasing a 351 kw GT to respark some nostalgia and conversation.

And it's the best V8 to come out since ticky stroker, but like you said ford has issues, one marketing, two build quality, three ergonomics to name few, but I wouldn't own anything else for now, to tell you a little about myself, my next daily was to be a 310 or 335 but a 240 fell into my hands, so my next will be as preplanned..... and for the record, I never raised anything about a coupe, but will now, Holden and HSV did it successfully, is ford imputent, I hope the mustang bangs down to be honest!

Joe5619 · 18-02-2013, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GTP534

Personally I think it's great Ford has done this even if the cars are the same. Pity it didn't get on the prime time news like VF did; it is significant that the "GT" has rolled out of Broadmeadows.

Any publicity is good publicity!

Channel 10 did a good peice on it...

rdmr · 18-02-2013, 10:02 PM

Here's the goauto article.

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257B1600195877

GTP534 · 18-02-2013, 10:05 PM

Thanks Joe,

That's great to hear. I watched Channels 7 (6pm) and 2 (7pm) news and didn't hear anything on them.

Ford did make an event out of it which was good to see.

GT-GTF · 18-02-2013, 10:11 PM

Great work with the video and the publicity generated Sinead. You have done very well in the circumstances. Imagine what you would have been able to do with a VF style model update!

Auslandau · 18-02-2013, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GTP534

Personally I think it's great Ford has done this even if the cars are the same. Pity it didn't get on the prime time news like VF did; it is significant that the "GT" has rolled out of Broadmeadows.

Any publicity is good publicity!

Actually was on both 10 and 9 news tonight, a few stories in as well and was actually quite a long story on 10 ..... also slammed on the radio from 7.00am on wards.

I know there was a reason for them doing it but I didn't see much of the C'dore on the news as it was released on a weekend .... and on a Sunday which I think would be the worst time to do it? Plus the amount of leaks from the US sites. I did really notice the canned applause with the unveiling. That was quite funny to watch with everyone watching with their arms folded.

Fordman · 18-02-2013, 10:15 PM

Did anyone else get the hair standing on the back of your neck watching the video.

That was awsome! I wonder if there is any sort of marking on the gt's built out of the plant to differentiate?

Herrod Motorsport · 18-02-2013, 10:20 PM

Ford are very exited with the gt back in house and I believe new marketing will be happening

GT-GTF · 18-02-2013, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman

Did anyone else get the hair standing on the back of your neck watching the video.

That was awsome! I wonder if there is any sort of marking on the gt's built out of the plant to differentiate?

The Ford/FPV employees came across as very excited and dedicated to their product. The video is fantastic.

Elks · 18-02-2013, 10:35 PM

Well, what I saw was a bunch of passionate Ford employees delighted to get there hands back on fords premium products.

Yes, despite the folks here wanting the v10 twin turbo versions with the super heated cup holders, but what we got was a continuation of what is a car that can kick HSV but for years to come.

Yes it was a same as strategy, in part limited by time. But that is good because it promotes continuity and it beats the hell out of the no FPV strategy, that like it or not must have been on the table before FOA spent tens of millions to buy out Prodrive and move its production to Broadmeadows.

Upgrades to the range will happen in time maybe withe the model upgrade next year, I hope they have change of heart and bring forward the inter cooled versions if the need arises to counter the aledged LSA powered HSV. The only issue there is many of GMs grand announcements of late have been reversed ( australian VF SS's will not get the 6.2 motors was corrected today.) So who knows.

From my perspective, great work Ford. Keep building and developing these fine and underrated automobiles.