Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 18-07-2012, 08:51 AM   #1
aussie muscle
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
aussie muscle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,312
Default RAVING review for a change

We all know Ford has a good product, now finally journalists are realising it. Here's NRMA's review from July OPEN ROAD.


__________________
My ride: 2007 Falcon Ute BF XR8 Orange, MTO.
aussie muscle is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 09:04 AM   #2
Auslandau
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
 
Auslandau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

With regards to EcoBoost I havnt read an article yet that's isn't full of praise for it. They have a produced a great product but unfortunately it is still Australias best kept automotive secret



__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph
'11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph
'95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph


101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong!

Clevo Mafia
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Auslandau is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 09:20 AM   #3
flooded one
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,573
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

nobody seems interested in the ecoboost. its a shame too. havent driven one but by the sounds of it is a great car. I love the FG XR6 i drove. best falcon i have ever driven!!
flooded one is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 12:05 PM   #4
falconnut
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NSW
Posts: 1,428
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

They should be exporting this car and engine to Ford America and Europe it would do pretty well overthere.

A wagon would do even better.
__________________
2001 Falcon Fairmont AU2
Big turbo coming
Lsd
falconnut is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 12:07 PM   #5
Simple6
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Simple6's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Darwin
Posts: 1,694
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Tech article on rear bushes. 
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Good review.

VT model? I assume referring to XT.
__________________
1976 XB Falcon 500 Wagon - BUILD THREAD
Sherwood Green | 3spd/250CI | Running Whitewalls on a 2.5" Drop
Simple6 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 01:28 PM   #6
geehaa
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
geehaa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,056
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Certainly refreshing seeing something positive on it. For what it's worth I reckon ecoboost is a winner.
geehaa is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 05:17 PM   #7
Bossxr8
Peter Car
 
Bossxr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: geelong
Posts: 23,145
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Got a good review in this months Wheels too, Vs VE, Aurion and Camry Hybrid. They rated it the best.

0-100 in 6.5 and a 14.5 quarter, VE Omega was 15.6, and they called it the worst engine/driveline in an Australian car LOL.

Aurion ran a 14.2 quarter, thats pretty quick for a cardigan car, doesn't handle though. They raved about the Ecoboost's handling.
Bossxr8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 05:29 PM   #8
nstg8a
3..2..1..
 
nstg8a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Bellbird park
Posts: 7,218
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bossxr8

0-100 in 6.5 and a 14.5 quarter,

Fwiw, that 1/4 time is less than a second slower than a fg xr8 down the 1/4.

Times are a changing...
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by pottery beige View Post
Happy mcgadget meal orphan mcboofhead
nstg8a is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 05:54 PM   #9
mik
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
mik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Melb north
Posts: 12,025
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

fg is a good car, should be towards top of the sales list, totally dumb founded by the current sales, 14.5 1/4 mile for a 2.0 litre in a large car is bloody good performance, full marks to ford engineers !
mik is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 05:59 PM   #10
Auslandau
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
 
Auslandau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Quote:
Originally Posted by nstg8a
Fwiw, that 1/4 time is less than a second slower than a fg xr8 down the 1/4.

Times are a changing...
And near on identical to the 6 0-100. When we tested them the difference was minuscule to say the least BUT the 4 beat the 6 around the track because of handling. (Albeit, a small tight track)

The best run I have done in the stock BA XR6 was 15.4 Really does say a lot about the 4 pot.

It is just so sad, almost criminal that the only place they appear in advertising, apart from every glowing report from car mags, is on the windscreen of a V8 Supercar & an obscure Youtube add. A total waste of development and money unfortunately. Just cannot comprehend.



__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph
'11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph
'95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph


101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong!

Clevo Mafia
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Auslandau is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 06:33 PM   #11
TheInterceptor
Cruising...
 
TheInterceptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Perth
Posts: 3,819
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Just read that in the mag last night. Was refreshing to read. What appeals the most to me is the improved handling! Has more power than my AU I6 also which is also nice. Not impressed with insulation..makes the car heavier and i like to hear the turbo and motor

Still no wagon...SO still a useless car to me! Quite a pity really. And where are the adverts anyway?
__________________
FBT '98
BA XT '04
F100 4x4 '82

Subaru Outback '02
TheInterceptor is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 06:37 PM   #12
nstg8a
3..2..1..
 
nstg8a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Bellbird park
Posts: 7,218
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Quote:
Originally Posted by Auslandau
It is just so sad, almost criminal that the only place they appear in advertising, apart from every glowing report from car mags, is on the windscreen of a V8 Supercar & an obscure Youtube add. A total waste of development and money unfortunately. Just cannot comprehend.
This.


While I don't believe the conspiracy theories about ford wanting to kill falcon, it's certainly bewildering why a company like ford would spend so much on products like ecoboost and ecolpi, then not tell anyone about it...


__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by pottery beige View Post
Happy mcgadget meal orphan mcboofhead
nstg8a is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 06:40 PM   #13
Agile
Regular Member
 
Agile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 251
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Quote:
Originally Posted by Auslandau
And near on identical to the 6 0-100. When we tested them the difference was minuscule to say the least BUT the 4 beat the 6 around the track because of handling. (Albeit, a small tight track)

The best run I have done in the stock BA XR6 was 15.4 Really does say a lot about the 4 pot.

It is just so sad, almost criminal that the only place they appear in advertising, apart from every glowing report from car mags, is on the windscreen of a V8 Supercar & an obscure Youtube add. A total waste of development and money unfortunately. Just cannot comprehend.
Have not seen, have not heard one single add re the falcon , full stop. Nothing. Hear adds for Holden and Toyota add nauseam.
Go figure
Agile is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 06:44 PM   #14
Agile
Regular Member
 
Agile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 251
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheInterceptor
Just read that in the mag last night. Was refreshing to read. What appeals the most to me is the improved handling! Has more power than my AU I6 also which is also nice. Not impressed with insulation..makes the car heavier and i like to hear the turbo and motor

Still no wagon...SO still a useless car to me! Quite a pity really. And where are the adverts anyway?
Dont want to sound disrespectful, but why would ford make a sedan based wagon when they have ,at the price, a class leading wagon already.The Territory.
Agile is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 06:49 PM   #15
TheInterceptor
Cruising...
 
TheInterceptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Perth
Posts: 3,819
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Quote:
Originally Posted by Agile
Dont want to sound disrespectful, but why would ford make a sedan based wagon when they have ,at the price, a class leading wagon already.The Territory.
Hi. All good.

They wouldn't. They scrapped the LWB chassis so there is no chance of a wagon, least not a proper one.

Territory is not a proper wagon. It is an SUV. I dont like anything about them except the AWD system. Boot is smaller. Driving position is not as good (IMO). Its bigger on the outside for not much bigger on the inside. They are heavier also. I probably have more reasons but to what use.

So no thank you, class leading or not (and i agree its a fantastic product) it is not something for me. Neither is the Mondeo.
__________________
FBT '98
BA XT '04
F100 4x4 '82

Subaru Outback '02
TheInterceptor is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 07:15 PM   #16
Jim Goose
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Sun City, North Australis
Posts: 4,274
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Ford why arent you advertising this car?????
Why????????

**** i feel like a test drive just for the sake of it....
__________________
You've seen it, you've heard it and your still asking questions??

Don't write off the Goose until you see the box going into the hole....
Jim Goose is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 07:18 PM   #17
Road_Warrior
Pity the fool
 
Road_Warrior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wait Awhile
Posts: 8,997
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bossxr8

0-100 in 6.5 and a 14.5 quarter
Shee-it son, I had an 18 month old ex pursuit VT Commodore with an LS1 in it, and it did the 1/4 in 14.3, stock. This Ecoboost is .2 off that, and heavier. Absolutely unbelievable.

What an amazing car.
__________________
Fords I own or have owned:

1970 XW Falcon GT replica | 1970 XW Falcon | 1971 XY Fairmont | 1973 ZG Fairlane | 1986 XF Falcon panel van | 1987 XFII Falcon S-Pack | 1988 XF Falcon GLS ute | 1993 EBII Fairmont V8 | 1996 XG Falcon ute | 2000 AU Falcon wagon | 2004 BA Falcon XT | 2012 SZ Territory Titanium AWD

Proud to buy Australian and support Ford Australia through thick and thin
Road_Warrior is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 07:29 PM   #18
IDT
Marko
 
IDT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Perth W.A
Posts: 430
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Quote:
Originally Posted by Auslandau
With regards to EcoBoost I havnt read an article yet that's isn't full of praise for it. They have a produced a great product but unfortunately it is still Australias best kept automotive secret
Ditto, I have yet to see a thing other than the Ford Website, This forum and the front windscreen of FPR Cars. Not one actual proper advert
__________________
Mark
IDT is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 07:53 PM   #19
turboxf
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
turboxf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,785
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Goose
Ford why arent you advertising this car?????
Why????????

**** i feel like a test drive just for the sake of it....
Don't just go & say that mate , go & test drive one make sure you take a few olden' nuts with you so they can feel the EB4 speed & handling.

If i had the money i would buy 2, one for me & one for the misses

I see that the latest figures on sales is that more 4wd vehicles are being sold rather than fantastic EB4 cars.??????
Most of the 4wd vehicles just ride around on bitumen , not what they are intended for now are tho, it is a big ego thing to say i drive a 4wd , but the fantastic TERRA is better for what most 4wd drivers do when driving around the streets????????
turboxf is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 08:00 PM   #20
Rusty62
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Rusty62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 797
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Ford need to wake up and pull their finger out - this is total fbs imo. How hard is it to advertise these cars???
I do not want to see Falcon disappear and I will never buy a front wheel drive. FFS the way their going we'll all be driving bloody datsuns or some other POC
__________________
2011 FG GT-P #138 BLOWN 5.0, Auto, Vanish
2003 BA G220 Lighting Strike/Black leather
2007 BF Mk2 Fairmont Ghia 4.0, ZF in Ego/Cream Leather
1989 Daihatsu Rocky 4x4 - for the bush
2015 Nissan Patrol - for the long drive to the bush
2014 BMW R1200GS
2009 Ducati 1098 Streetfighter
plus the boat and trailer...fark that’s 9 regos and insurances each year
Rusty62 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 09:46 PM   #21
dallasv8
5.8 litres of fun
 
dallasv8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cobar
Posts: 562
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

wandered around the Cairns show tonight and didnt see a Ford display.will double check tomorrow but it would be the ideal time to have one parked there with the bonnet up.
that was a pretty good read.
__________________
2003 RTV
2015 Ranger XLS mk2
dallasv8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 10:24 PM   #22
JG34JA
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 487
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Wow, 6.5 and 14.5 quarter, that embarrasses my Sprint! What a good job, think I too will go have a look.
JG34JA is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-07-2012, 11:01 PM   #23
NX74205
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
NX74205's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Perth, WA
Posts: 1,311
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

I have driven the EcoBoost Falcon and I came to the same conclusion. I'm confident that anyone who drives one will be impressed.

Interesting to see the "4-cylinder Falcon" bashers, and sadly there are a few of them on this board, are silent in this thread.
__________________
Current car:
2016 Ford MD Mondeo Titanium EcoBoost (2016-)
Previous cars:
2005 Ford BF Fairmont (2006-2019)
1989 Ford EA Falcon GL (2000-2007)
1982 Ford KA Laser Ghia (1999-2000)
NX74205 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-07-2012, 12:12 AM   #24
csv8
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
csv8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Central Q..10kms west of Rocky...
Posts: 8,318
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

I am not a 4 cylinder Falcon basher, but compare equipment levels for similar priced cars and the Falcon is lacking in features. Throw the 300C in the mix and Ford needs to lift the specification level. When the VF arrives next year, I am sure you will find the Omega like the Berlina is now..Then the Mondeo specs for the same price, Falcon is the poor cousin. Size and space don't equate to value for money..Hyundai diesel i40 gets around 1400kms a tank!!! Ford just assumed people would keep buying the Falcon, they misjudged the market.
__________________
CSGhia
csv8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-07-2012, 12:50 PM   #25
mik
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
mik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Melb north
Posts: 12,025
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

why would you compare a small car with a diesel engine to a large family sedan in the economy stakes? to some of us, size, space, towing capacity, safety, quiet lounge room ride , effortless cruising are value for money regardless of a few less gadgets.
mik is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-07-2012, 01:05 PM   #26
KIWI-1
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Victoria
Posts: 907
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bossxr8
0-100 in 6.5 and a 14.5 quarter, VE Omega was 15.6, and they called it the worst engine/driveline in an Australian car LOL.
Falcons have been way better than Commodores since the AU days (at least), but Holden have the marketing. As many before me have said, doesn't matter how good the ecoBoost is if .....
KIWI-1 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-07-2012, 01:06 PM   #27
Nic85
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 677
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Quote:
Originally Posted by mik
why would you compare a small car with a diesel engine to a large family sedan in the economy stakes? to some of us, size, space, towing capacity, safety, quiet lounge room ride , effortless cruising are value for money regardless of a few less gadgets.
i40 touring is similar in size to Falcon.
Nic85 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-07-2012, 08:59 PM   #28
Bossxr8
Peter Car
 
Bossxr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: geelong
Posts: 23,145
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Quote:
Originally Posted by csv8
I am not a 4 cylinder Falcon basher, but compare equipment levels for similar priced cars and the Falcon is lacking in features. Throw the 300C in the mix and Ford needs to lift the specification level. When the VF arrives next year, I am sure you will find the Omega like the Berlina is now..Then the Mondeo specs for the same price, Falcon is the poor cousin. Size and space don't equate to value for money..Hyundai diesel i40 gets around 1400kms a tank!!! Ford just assumed people would keep buying the Falcon, they misjudged the market.
You'd assume extra equipment levels will come with the update in 2014.
Bossxr8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-07-2012, 09:46 PM   #29
mik
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
mik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Melb north
Posts: 12,025
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nic85
i40 touring is similar in size to Falcon.
ok my bad, i was thinking i30, it`s an old age thing ,
i stand by what i said in my earlier post though , the falcon has things the going for it many of the others don`t, comparing it to the i40 touring , the I40 touring it`s a little better off in kit in some area`s, and economy , but it`s 50k range, that`s in the eco lpi range, so all of a sudden the economy is looking pretty good in the big falcon, towing capacity , torque, power, space, pretty decent comfort, effortless cruising, and rwd ! and it`s built in oz !
mik is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-07-2012, 09:49 AM   #30
SumoDog68
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,128
Default Re: RAVING review for a change

Falcon issue re sales was never a straight line speed or qtr times.
It is a fair bet to say tha current Falcon is quicker then all of the cars that outsell it.
Issue is body size and shape - namely large sedan - those are not in demand accross the board . Families have moved to SUVs (FORD Oz has a major player there) ,young and single, female and pensioners dont as a majority look for large sedans. Falcon might have some image issues but main reason for poor sales is that market has moved away from large sedan.
Solution - make it smaller ? It wont be a Falcon any more...
SumoDog68 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 03:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL