Ford Going Global

99AUXR · 15-07-2010, 02:56 AM

Our ford Dealer informed us that the idea that ford have in play at the moment is to go global, meaning that they will get rid of the falcon range (big mistake) and bring in cars from the US such as the Taurus. This is supposably happening around 2011-2012. There Will Essentually Be A Global Ford Selection of cars to save cost.

The Ranger and Wildtrak to be Replaced By A New Truck Called A T6. But Testing and Production Of a GT-HO Has been confirmed.

99AUXR · 15-07-2010, 03:00 AM

the XR8 is not on the ford website not because it is going to be produced by FPV but they are now not producing anymore due to new emission regulations. A friend of mine had an FG XR8 and its dual climate zones didnt work so they tryed to get him a new one but because no more arre being produced he couldnt get one so ford have given him a G6E Turbo.

chevypower · 15-07-2010, 03:00 AM

I think it will happen eventually, but not that soon. By then the Taurus will be a completely different car, the Falcon will be a different car... they will just morph in to the same thing for consolidation. Doesn't mean end of manufacturing in Australia. Just means Ford's long term goal is a global lineup of models, no different to Mercedes and BMW. The old way of making a billion different models for different countries with a billion different brands was not the way to make better cars! I think that's why all the cars used to be so crap. By the way, T6 is just the code name I think. It will be the new Ranger.

99AUXR · 15-07-2010, 03:06 AM

Correct That is The Long Term Goal But they are trying to go global sooner rather than later and the falcon at this stage is only set to last to the end of 2011 if I can remember. Personally the US should adopt the Australian Models They Are Far Better Built With Nicer interior. Same For Holden The Austrailian Versions Are Far Better Than The US Counter Parts. The US have never been able to get good power from engines and probably never will.

Ford Would Also Do well to put some of the FPV range into the UK. We Had a friend come over who is a Ferrari Dealer and he Saw Dads FG GT-P In the Garage And Was Blowen Away By How Staunch It Was and Said People In The UK would Pay Up to NZD120k For a car like that.

99AUXR · 15-07-2010, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chevypower

T6 is just the code name I think. It will be the new Ranger.

Yes But That is what we have heard from dealer as we have got our name on one for when the announce a release date. But The Wildtrak Is such a good Ute The T6 Better Be Good, But I suppose this Global Thing Doesnt Matter because we will end up Buying A GT-HO and then just keeping that. I hope Foward Get it right and dont **** it up. Because they would be doing well to beat the E2 Supercar By Walkinshaw Racing (Love That Car)

chevypower · 15-07-2010, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 99AUXR

The Austrailian Versions Are Far Better Than The US Counter Parts. The US have never been able to get good power from engines and probably never will.

Interesting, since the GM V6 engines are produced by GM globally, umm the EcoBoost V6 isn't exactly "not good power", in fact it absolutely flies, go drive one, the GM V8s are exported to Australia, as is the Ford 5.4L V8. Yes, I know it is assembled in Australia, but it is made up of parts that come from North America. Lincoln stopped using the DOHC version. 5.0L Coyote V8 not powerful enough for you? Have you sat in or driven the new Taurus? Or are you comparing the NEW Falcon to the OLD Taurus? As far as I'm concerned, they are both good cars. I will say though, the Commodore is a much better car than the Impala, but that isn't really saying much.

jpd80 · 15-07-2010, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 99AUXR

Our ford Dealer informed us that the idea that ford have in play at the moment is to go global, meaning that they will get rid of the falcon range (big mistake) and bring in cars from the US such as the Taurus. This is supposably happening around 2011-2012. There Will Essentually Be A Global Ford Selection of cars to save cost.

The Ranger and Wildtrak to be Replaced By A New Truck Called A T6. But Testing and Production Of a GT-HO Has been confirmed.

Did it ever occur to you that your dealer is reading way too much into Ford's plans?
Perhaps Taurus gets tried here again, I dunno about that, it pretty big and heavy - about 150 kgs on Falcon.

Ford knows that giving up the Falcon RWD is suicide and that Taurus would sell as well as Mondeo - 400/month.

prydey · 15-07-2010, 06:43 AM

welcome to the forum mr 99AUXR. its obvious you are new to these boards. the topics you have raised have all been discussed in depth a number of times.

sgt_doofey · 15-07-2010, 07:56 AM

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welcome to the forum mr 99AUXR. its obvious you are new to these boards. the topics you have raised have all been discussed in depth a number of times.

Yep. A search will turn up all the correct information. Falcon has been confirmed through to 2015, hasn't it?
Next year, 2011, will see the introduction of the 4cyl EcoBoost and the LiLPG engines in to the Falcon range.
Me thinks your dealer doesn't have all the right information.

Joe5619 · 15-07-2010, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 99AUXR

. But Testing and Production Of a GT-HO Has been confirmed.

How do you build a GT-HO if you dont build a Falcon?? That does not add up!!

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Originally Posted by 99AUXR

Correct That is The Long Term Goal But they are trying to go global sooner rather than later and the falcon at this stage is only set to last to the end of 2011 if I can remember.

So Ford are spend 230 million releasing new stuff in the next 6 months accorss Falcon & territ, to only stop production at the end of 2011??

On a More serious note... How is Ford mement to go forward if Dealers have NO IDEA & are tell customers such BS??

My poor XF · 15-07-2010, 08:43 AM

You sure it wasn't a Holden dealer??

99AUXR · 15-07-2010, 08:48 AM

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You sure it wasn't a Holden dealer??

LOL No it wasnt and i was just repeating what i was told but thankyou for the other information very helpful.

Jason[98.EL] · 15-07-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe5619

How do you build a GT-HO if you dont build a Falcon?? That does not add up!!

So Ford are spend 230 million releasing new stuff in the next 6 months accorss Falcon & territ, to only stop production at the end of 2011??

On a More serious note... How is Ford mement to go forward if Dealers have NO IDEA & are tell customers such BS??

i think the op should send an e-mail to ford head office and name and shame the dealership

that is shocking that they would say a thing like that

Jason

XAGSV8 · 15-07-2010, 09:04 AM

Welcome to the forums 99AUXR. I'm thinking some Ford Dealers are certainly not helping Ford's case (or their own) with jibberish like this. Did they say if the GTHO is going to get a V10 or not?

99AUXR · 15-07-2010, 09:26 AM

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Welcome to the forums 99AUXR. I'm thinking some Ford Dealers are certainly not helping Ford's case (or their own) with jibberish like this. Did they say if the GTHO is going to get a V10 or not?

HO is Apperently V8 But wouldnt know after the BS ive been told.

Windsor220 · 15-07-2010, 09:27 AM

People have to realise that dealers know nothing more than what we do. They get told only a month or 2 before the launch of a new model. There is no way they would know officially whats happening for the future for Ford.

Mr Hardware · 15-07-2010, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe5619

On a More serious note... How is Ford mement to go forward if Dealers have NO IDEA & are tell customers such BS??

Quite right. I think stealerships do the best job of all in putting people off Fords.

Dr Smith · 15-07-2010, 09:59 AM

Did your dealer tell you that the current Ranger replacement, often referred to as T6 has been a project run by Ford Australia. So global can work both ways. And with the greatest of respect to your dealer, unless they have a spy feeding them directly from within Ford (and it's highly unlikely), then their future product knowledge is measured in months in advance compared to the general public. And often it's forums like this that information gets out earlier.

JPFS1 · 15-07-2010, 10:08 AM

dear oh dear... where does one start!!!!

aussie muscle · 15-07-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 99AUXR

Personally the US should adopt the Australian Models
Ford Would Also Do well to put some of the FPV range into the UK.

I agree, althought i'm not so sure the yanks would be as interested in the falcon as say the Poms, who would certainly lap them up. after all they loved the Monaro.

cosmo20btt · 15-07-2010, 12:03 PM

If the Ford dealers aren't being told any thing by Ford, then the only info that the dealers must must be working from is the Jezz spiinks rhetoric, as this would account for what they are saying, I would not believe any of it, personally.

SpoolMan · 15-07-2010, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 99AUXR

The Ranger and Wildtrak to be Replaced By A New Truck Called A T6.

The T6 was developed and engineered in Australia.
T6 which I believe is its build name will be built in Thailand for the rest of the World.

Chilliman · 15-07-2010, 12:40 PM

I'm pretty sure that the Falcon, in its current form, will be around until 2015-16.

I think it was on GoAuto.com.au with Ford Australia President, Marin Burela, quoted as saying such. Any one care to back me up OR conversly shoot me down in flames?

Feathers · 15-07-2010, 12:56 PM

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I agree, althought i'm not so sure the yanks would be as interested in the falcon as say the Poms, who would certainly lap them up. after all they loved the Monaro.

All the Americans I know that have seen our Falcons, complained bitterly that Ford US screwed them by not releasing it there.

Road_Warrior · 15-07-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JPFS1

dear oh dear... where does one start!!!!

That was the first thing I thought as well. Le sigh.

JPFS1 · 15-07-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SpoolMan

The T6 was developed and engineered in Australia.
T6 which I believe is its build name will be built in Thailand for the rest of the World.

not just Thailand.

Auslandau · 15-07-2010, 01:09 PM

Funny that a dealer knows the internal goings on at FORD HQ when FORD HQ don't even know at this point in time.

BUT of course it will happen. Australia is a market that is very spoilt with options on locally produced and designed product at the moment. We have the population of Texas here ....... the car companies would be mad to keep local production for the local market only in such a massively small market. Might have worked years ago but not now.

Jason[98.EL] · 15-07-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 99AUXR

Our ford Dealer informed us that the idea that ford have in play at the moment is to go global, meaning that they will get rid of the falcon range (big mistake) and bring in cars from the US such as the Taurus. This is supposably happening around 2011-2012. There Will Essentually Be A Global Ford Selection of cars to save cost.

The Ranger and Wildtrak to be Replaced By A New Truck Called A T6. But Testing and Production Of a GT-HO Has been confirmed.

Just have a look at this thread

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11302094

it has the man from ford au stating that the falcon will be around after this range cycle endsin on way or form after 2016

there goes the 2012 time frame your guy stated

Jason

jpd80 · 15-07-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JPFS1

not just Thailand.

I thought that Silverton in South Africa was being expanded to build 60,000/year Rangers
and Ford moving out of Thailand AAI joint venture plant, am I right on this one?

DanielXR8 · 16-07-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Windsor220

People have to realise that dealers know nothing more than what we do. They get told only a month or 2 before the launch of a new model. There is no way they would know officially whats happening for the future for Ford.

Windsor 220 has a point and Ford customers know nothing more then what Ford tells them in the PR magazine they send out. So far I know my Terri is old and not suitable for the family to pose next to on the beach. Thats all Ford believes I need to know.

I did hear a rumour about ball joints failing once. Maybe they got sand in them during the photo shoot? Certainly no notification in the mail or anything and no sportsman with a Ford long term loaner has dropped by the house or my local beach with any news.