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Old 06-07-2006, 10:59 PM   #1
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Thumbs down 2006 half year report for Aussie car industry

Ford

Falcon -22,018 (27,327) -19.4%
Territory - 10,100 (12,599) -19.8%
Falcon Ute - 8,142 (9,432) -13.7%
Fairlane - 593 (895) -33.7%
LTD - 28 (76) -63.2%

Total Ford - 40,881 (50,329,815) - 18.8%

Holden

Commodore - 26,680 (36,228) -26.4%
Utility 4x2 - 7,373 (9,018) -18.2%
Adventra - 1,457 (903) +61.4%
Statesman - 996 (1,544) -35.5%
Monaro - 683 (1,124) -39.2%
Utility 4x4 - 608 (516) +17.8%
Caprice - 238 (390) - 39.0%

Total Holden - 38,035 (49,723) -23.5%

Toyota

Camry 4cyl - 9,250 (12,078) -23.4%
Camry 6cyl - 5,027 (5,963) - 15.7%
Avalon - 28 (2,074) - 98.6%

Total Toyota - 14,305 (20,115) -28.9%

Mitsubishi

380 - 6,745 (0) N/A
Magna - 555 (6,760) -91.8%
Verada - 49 (825) -94.1%

Total Mitsubishi - 7,349 (7,585) -3.1%

Total all four - 100,570 (127,752) -21.3%

Before anybody jumps in and says 'but Holden exports a lot more cars', these are just local sales figures.

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Old 06-07-2006, 11:18 PM   #2
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Ah, its not that Bad...look at how many Territories we sold all up...about 40,000 Falcon Based products alone...im sure Ford a pretty darn happy with that..and you didnt take Couriers into account.
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:21 PM   #3
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whats up with the adventura boom? i thought they were pieces of ****?
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:22 PM   #4
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Ah, its not that Bad...look at how many Territories we sold all up...about 40,000 Falcon Based products alone...im sure Ford a pretty darn happy with that..and you didnt take Couriers into account.
Couriers are not made in Australia.

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Old 06-07-2006, 11:23 PM   #5
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whats up with the adventura boom? i thought they were pieces of ****?
I'd hardly call it a "boom"... 1400 units.
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:23 PM   #6
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whats up with the adventura boom? i thought they were pieces of ****?
This time last year the Adventra was a V8 model only. With the addition of the Alloytech V6 engine the sales have increased.

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Old 06-07-2006, 11:31 PM   #7
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Still...how many SUV's have Ford AU sold compared to holden...add that onto the fact that the Territory is practicaly made entirely of Falcon Parts...All up, we have Way better numbers than Holden.
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Dont think the industry is going to set a record in new car sales this year if the trend continues.
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Old 07-07-2006, 11:23 AM   #9
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Adventra's are far from a piece of ****, thats just being way biased.

They are actually a damn nice chunk of metal to drive, with rear whee biased AWD which akes em feel nice on the road, a VERY nice cabin in the LX6 and a great looking car.

Before anyone jumps in and says the sales figures don't read this. The Adventra and Territory are in two totally different market's one is just a jacked up wagon and the other is a full on SUV.

I would love to see the Adventra continue on after the captive comes in as they are different aplications, but I can't see this happening. V8 model has ben dropped now so the V6's are holding a lot more ground.

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Old 07-07-2006, 12:37 PM   #10
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Ah, its not that Bad...look at how many Territories we sold all up...about 40,000 Falcon Based products alone...im sure Ford a pretty darn happy with that..and you didnt take Couriers into account.
I agree. Ford sold more Aussie-made cars than any other - a great return on the BA investment of 500,000 gorillas a few years ago. I remember Polites at the time syaing he didn't care if Ford sold more or less cars than Holden and Toyota, as long as they made money. These figures are good for Oz Ford's profitability.

PS - on these figures, it's actually FORD that means a great deal to Australia.
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Old 07-07-2006, 06:21 PM   #11
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Adventra's are far from a piece of ****, thats just being way biased.

They are actually a damn nice chunk of metal to drive, with rear whee biased AWD which akes em feel nice on the road, a VERY nice cabin in the LX6 and a great looking car.

Before anyone jumps in and says the sales figures don't read this. The Adventra and Territory are in two totally different market's one is just a jacked up wagon and the other is a full on SUV.

I would love to see the Adventra continue on after the captive comes in as they are different aplications, but I can't see this happening. V8 model has ben dropped now so the V6's are holding a lot more ground.

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Face the facts, no one wants them. Holden will soon discontinue them and add up how much money they lost on it.
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:11 PM   #12
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Face the facts, no one wants them. Holden will soon discontinue them and add up how much money they lost on it.
How much of the R&D from the Adventra will be used in VE and other such projetcs? I am sure they used it for the crewman and coupe4, so maybe it isn't as big a loss as some may think.
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:32 PM   #13
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Before anybody jumps in and says 'but Holden exports a lot more cars', these are just local sales figures.

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Overall for the half year (locan and imported units)

06 05 diff %diff
Holden Total 60,792 73,120 -12,328 -16.9%
Ford Total 48,496 53,793 -5,297 -9.8%
Toyota Total 82,227 76,431 5,796 7.6%
Mitsubishi Total 21,754 24,332 -2,578 -10.6%




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PS - on these figures, it's actually FORD that means a great deal to Australia.
And they have for a couple of years
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Old 07-07-2006, 11:40 PM   #14
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I remember about 5 years ago and how Holden was being touted as the GM crown jewels and to a certain extent they are. But the other interesting thing was that they also said they had a plan for continued market leadership and would build it up to 25%...

Going on these figures, they might make 16%. Compared to this time last year, Holden were only 3000 units short of Toyota, now 20000 units.
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How much of the R&D from the Adventra will be used in VE and other such projetcs? I am sure they used it for the crewman and coupe4, so maybe it isn't as big a loss as some may think.
The AWD project has been a total failure for Holden. They spent a few hundred million on it and struggled to sell them. The Adventra and Crewman will most likely be dropped within the next year or two leaving Holden without a local made AWD. I doubt wether any VE models will have AWD.
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It won't. That is where the imported Daewoo Craptiva model will take over from the local VZ based AWD models.

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